EVE General Discussion

Well... how should i start ?

i try to keep it short, in the beginning ccp tried to get control over the rmt situation, and with the introduction of plex they made on one hand a big throw in this case, but on the other hand they have signed an unspoken agreement. it means that player that find ways to earn enough isk legally within eve can buy plex and plax the game "for free", but it really means they play eve in a way that support the eve economy and the eve community, and it was good and worked fine, especially when pi came up and we players could skill up and raise up colonies, it was perfect.
from that point of time the unspoken agreement was this, feed the eve market with the requested pi goods, and you get isk for plex to play the game and support the community, and it again worked fine and perfect.

but with the announcement of the player customs office you have broken this agreement ccp, and this means you kick those players that use plex to stay online out of eve online, if you wish so then say it, have the eggs and reply to this post and tell it toward the community, so that all players that use plex to play eve can at least leave eve online in an organized way, if that is what you want ccp.
and not only words form an agreement, actions do that also, just to clarify it.
and tbh, all the flaming that will follow i will ignore, only staff member from ccp that reply to this post i will read and response, the rest... i dont care.

i play eve since 2005, six years altogether, and i deserve an answer from you ccp guys and i demand it, and if you dont give me an answer then i take it as the worst answer possible.
must all the eve players that play eve over plex and earn isk with pi feel like player second class that no one is interested in ? are they getting hunted down like this ? do they really deserve this ccp ? give an answer to this questions, in your own interest !


MfG Ottman

Not like that, that's for sure…

So let me try to get this straight.

You assumed that there was some kind of agreement where you were given given game time by other players in exchange for ISK as long as you provided the market with PI products… and now that you might need to pay a bit more to get those PI products to market, this assumed agreement is void?

Ehm… where on earth did you get the idea that such an agreement existed between you and CCP? Why on earth would ie be broken by you having to pay more for your PI exports (if that, indeed, turns out to be the case)? Why do you equate the use of PLEX with PI? In fact, what the hell do the two even have to do with each other? How does a bit more PI tax lead to them kicking PLEXing players out of EVE?

Furthermore, if you wanted to speak to someone at CCP, why didn't you ask them instead of going to the community?



Oh, and btw, tax increases means you can make more money through PI than ever…

What??? Come on man...

You do realize that it doesn't matter to ccp if you play via plex, or by paying for a subscription right?

It may seem free to those using plex, but ccp makes money regardlress of how one maintains their subscription. The plex that people purchase in-game has alreeady been paid for in real world money by SOMEBODY when the plex was initially purchased.

CCP wanting people who pay with plex to leave the game would be the exact same thing as accusing them of wanting paying subscriberrs to go away too.

Does anyone think that the price of PI on the market will increase for a while after the new custom offices?

The increase might even be enough to compensate for the raise in the taxes.

Oh wow


No.

Does it really matter to CCP? Someone, somewhere paid for the PLEX with real money; it's like having someone pay for your account and you provide an ingame service for them...

It amazing me the people who think they are creating something of value making virtual goods that can be created with a few keystrokes.

For purposes of game play and balance, the developers have Choosen to create mechics that have player actions using those dynammics deternmine how many goods are created.

But of course, if players aren't getting the balance to a healthy place they can change drop rates, boutnties or the human time quotient necessary to produce more goods important to the economy.

The only thing keeping CCP from making stuff out of thin air is that by using the market mechanism and players, they harness a powerful tool that saves them tons of hours tweeking the stuff.

Even better, many players (and I have been a piece of the distribution hub at least) really enjoy the process so by making more elements player based CCP is also creating content for people like th OP to enjoy.

HOWEVER ... those happy uses of the market mechanism in no way mean that CCP needs you to create Hydrogen Isotopes to keep posses running... if you didn't and too much content was being disrupted they'd introduce ways for other to get it into the game. "too much" is a fine point.. and cycles that create drama and disruption creating interesting game play... only after the pain gets too intense would they interevene.. but they have dozens of ways to do so.

tldr..

You're playing a game not working for CCP creating pos fuel.

No.. It doesn't and that's where the OP seems to be a bit confused.

Not that it matters, since in his first post he said he won't bother reading any replies unless they are from a DEV or GM.

What ? Dude... what you smoking i want some.