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Heck yeah!!! Tracking on DScan!!!

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#21 - 2012-12-11 21:17:58 UTC
Ok, that is cool. It cranks up the pucker factor by an order of magnitude though for people like me that tend to hide more than lose..er fight. I'm going to have to speed up my PI transfers or get caught on the POCO.

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CCP Orion
C C P
C C P Alliance
#22 - 2012-12-11 21:31:29 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Orion
Bienator II wrote:
activating tracking cam via hotkey does not toggle the checkbox.

Correct, the C key only toggles the tracking camera on off, the checkbox in the scanning window centers the tracking point. It will also temporarily enable tracking while it is set.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#23 - 2012-12-11 21:40:16 UTC
CCP Orion wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
activating tracking cam via hotkey does not toggle the checkbox.

Correct, the C key only toggles the tracking camera on off, the checkbox in the scanning window centers the tracking point. It will also temporarily enable tracking while it is set.

ah. i understand. its already centered in my case so it makes no difference visually.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-12-11 21:58:32 UTC
Move camera...scan...move camera...scan...move camera...scan...move camera...recalibrating...recalibrating...recalibrating...scan...move camera...scan...

Thank God. Anything that reduces that BS is a welcome addition!

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Rammix
TheMurk
#25 - 2012-12-11 22:16:35 UTC
That would be nice if returned my ship to the center.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2012-12-11 23:01:40 UTC
This is a wonderful addition to the "probe drop" method.

Did the overlay come back to the maps though?

Reason is this, when you use the D-Scanner at max range, you get a hit, then cut the range by halves for a "binary search" of the distance. This gives you a location to drop combat probes on a target and if they are not mashing D-Scan on a tight interval, and your scanning is fast, they won't know you got a warpable hit (of course, with rigs, implants, etc, you can use a "loose" formation and more looser the larger the ship) .

I recall seeing that the tactical overlay on the map was gone in a previous expansion, where it showed the distance rings in AU, and this would be quite helpful, but no access to an EvE client at the moment to check on this.


The method I described is not new, but there is a kind of "instinctive shooting" aspect to where to drop the probes. If you get it right, you can put combat probes in a loose formation for one scan and get a location, and they won't see a thing coming. I learned this from post by a top PVPer (King Rothgar actually) and thankfully not the hard way. Having tried it myself, it does work.


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Transmaritanus
Exergy.
#27 - 2012-12-11 23:13:48 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
This is a wonderful addition to the "probe drop" method.

Did the overlay come back to the maps though?

Reason is this, when you use the D-Scanner at max range, you get a hit, then cut the range by halves for a "binary search" of the distance. This gives you a location to drop combat probes on a target and if they are not mashing D-Scan on a tight interval, and your scanning is fast, they won't know you got a warpable hit (of course, with rigs, implants, etc, you can use a "loose" formation and more looser the larger the ship) .

I recall seeing that the tactical overlay on the map was gone in a previous expansion, where it showed the distance rings in AU, and this would be quite helpful, but no access to an EvE client at the moment to check on this.


The method I described is not new, but there is a kind of "instinctive shooting" aspect to where to drop the probes. If you get it right, you can put combat probes in a loose formation for one scan and get a location, and they won't see a thing coming. I learned this from post by a top PVPer (King Rothgar actually) and thankfully not the hard way. Having tried it myself, it does work.


Thanks CCP. Now if only I could actually play well enough to kill a ship Cry. Cool






King Rothgar used to be in my corp.

I have no idea what he's up to othe than cashing out FW LP from years of playing both sides
witchking42
Node Nibblers
#28 - 2012-12-11 23:34:53 UTC
This may help for those going WAT?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPESzr33FI

Nice buff for us d-scan warriors!

wk42
Dr Wahoos
Born-2-Kill
#29 - 2012-12-12 03:39:19 UTC
Am i the only one that thinks its slower? Maybe I'm just used to the old system.

Seems like once you get good at dragging the camera around and landing exactly only the belt/anom it's a lot faster than trying to click something.

Plus, once you click something else, the box on your own ship disappears.... so after your 5 deg scan fails it becomes harder to start your 15 deg scan or w/e

Just my thoughts.
Bruce Kemp
Get A Life
#30 - 2012-12-12 07:51:19 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Transmaritanus wrote:
Isn't everyone stoked about this AWESOME ADDITION TO DSCAN?

Now all of us can be HIGHSPEED LOW DRAG GOOD TO GO TRACKIN SCOUTS AWESOMEEE

Seriously CCP, as a Inty/Scout pilot, you made me have Christmas come early.


INSTANT 5 DEGREE SCAN ON ANYTHING YOU CLICK ON

Seriously thank you CCP , the new tracking thingy is godlike



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Feer Truelight
#31 - 2012-12-12 07:54:06 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
can you make the dscan center on the point where i set the new camera option ? would be fantastic


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CCP Orion
C C P
C C P Alliance
#32 - 2012-12-12 22:04:19 UTC
Tomorrows hotfix will add support for camera center offset, i.e. for players playing with ship not in the center of screen, and should return your ship to your chosen location once tracking is disengaged. I also fixed a fault in the "target locking" ignore code which disabled automatic target switching if you had no shortcut mapped to target locking.
Cheers,

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Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#33 - 2012-12-12 22:06:45 UTC
CCP Orion wrote:
Transmaritanus wrote:
Isn't everyone stoked about this AWESOME ADDITION TO DSCAN?

Now all of us can be HIGHSPEED LOW DRAG GOOD TO GO TRACKIN SCOUTS AWESOMEEE

Seriously CCP, as a Inty/Scout pilot, you made me have Christmas come early.


glad you like it



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Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-12-12 23:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Karsa Egivand
Feer Truelight wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
can you make the dscan center on the point where i set the new camera option ? would be fantastic


This. CCP please.


Have you tried if checking the "Tracking" checkbox in the dscan window (under "Use active overview settings") suits your needs?

Edit: Oh, you mean so that functionally it is as (good as) it is now, but it keeps the target where you want it to be visually (for aesthetic reasons)?
CraftyCroc
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#35 - 2012-12-12 23:57:37 UTC
I support the OP's view
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#36 - 2012-12-13 02:06:37 UTC
Thanks so much for this! The scanner has recently taken a turn for the worse since, at some point, it started to limit each of your scans even while 'drilling' down the angles so you were severely limited in how quickly you could find someone.

This change doesn't fix 'that' but does something so much better. Perhaps removing skill from the equation in the process but then again perhaps a level playing field should be welcomed?

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zzlep Alduin
Alveare Artifex
#37 - 2012-12-14 00:20:56 UTC
does this work in map hud?
WSixsmith
The Association
#38 - 2012-12-18 02:30:08 UTC
No it doesn't work in Map hud just regular view. Which kinda confuses me cause I've been using the map view to do this hands down faster for quite a while now. You can point right at an anom and get a 5 degree on it simple as pie. You just use the you are here marker as the back sight and the anom, astral body as the front sight. Then just dial in the range if there are a couple of things in line to know where he went. The only thing it might be good for is catching which direction a ship flew off in if you weren't zoomed out enough to see where the dude went in time.
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