Warfare & Tactics

AWOXing in Faction War:;

As i understand the term its, When a player of an millitia attacks the other allied millitia player without provocation or as an act of piracy. They dont get standing penalty for their respective millitia. This is flawed, they should be penalized somehow, or dont appear purple at all.

You mean like when Cal Mil would come down to help out slaver mil and get ganked while they were fighting frogs and slaves? Amarr is just as much an enemy to Cal Mil as the frogs and slaves are.

I wonder why CCP marked Amarr militia as blue when there does not seem to be any repercussions from engaging them anyway, sec status aside. It's very annoying to see known wt alts and/or awoxers as blue in my local and as said, new people wont know the difference.

Perhaps I just need to roll up my own alt and go have fun.

I get all that, and thats my point if i would have known that they are hostile i would have engaged. If they are allies they should be subject to the same penalties as shooting your own militia. Its very simple and i dont understand why is not like that unless its intended to allow AWOXing.

If this is the case there should be a way to label allied militia differently so you can be aware of the risk.

Why fix something that is not broken ?
Can corpmates attack you, even in hisec ? YES !! So, why not treat 'friendly' militia as hostile until you know them personally ?

There is a process in place to deal with same corp killing, the AWOXer wil get away with it for a while until he gets kicked out of corp and thats the end of it, but for FW you could do this for ever without repercussion.

You can give them negative standings and adjust your overiew for this. Put negative above militia. However this can cause some problems because then others who you had set negative might join your militia. Perhaps you set them negative because you didn't like them for whatever reason but you aren't willing to shoot them when they are blue. So now you have to readjust all those standing so you know who you are shooting even if they are in your militia and who you are shooting unless they are in your miltiia. Also you can use the color tag and the back ground seperate. So its kind of a hassle at first but this can be accomplished.

The real problem is the standings hit we receive if we attack them first. I do not know if you still get the standings hit if you war dec them. Perhaps someone from late night can tell us since they like to war dec their own miltiia.

But even if the wardec means you don't get a standings hit they can easilly jump to different corp.

There should be some sort of flag that applies if you attack your own miltia or friendly militia first. The flag means you are a wartarget for all 4 militias. Perhaps the first time you do this it lasts an hour. The second time it lasts a week. The Third time and subsequently you get flagged for a month. No standing hit, gate guns, or sec status hits if a militia attackes a person with this flag.

When ships explode, CCP makes money. They will support any mechanic that makes ships explode.

I guess its fare to assume CCP finds this action acceptable, but what im asking is to have better labeling to tell apart allied militia or if purple they should play under the same rules as ALL purple. All im asking is consistency.

I filed a petition for all that is worth to fix this and I encourage you to do the same.

Adding the militia column to your overview will at least let you know which militia they are in when they are on grid. I do think the no purple/standings hit to your faction for shooting allied faction should be implemented though (my preference is towards the latter).