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The Neural Remap Megathread

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Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-12-11 23:34:29 UTC
So, the most recent dev blog talked about Christmas and the celebrations that would be taking place.

Notably absent were neural remaps. We will not be receiving a bonus remap this year.

I've heard people saying this is a good thing (CCP shouldn't give out stuff that has a tangible in-game benefit) and that this is a welcome trend from CCP giving out items that are more than cosmetic.

On the flip side, I've heard people a little bit sad/angry they won't get another remap and will be stuck in their current remap longer than planned.

So, I ask, how does this make you feel? Should remaps be brought back? Should presents always be cosmetic? Should remaps be added to the Aurum store? Discuss!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-12-11 23:36:59 UTC
No. Attributes have consequences.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2012-12-11 23:38:56 UTC
Players should only have the expectation of one Remap every 12 months. If another one is given, it's given. If not, not.

There honestly isn't anything to feel. Are you expecting Anger ? Love ? Fear ? Envy ?

It's probably not really an emotional point with too many people. If it is.....Shocked

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
#4 - 2012-12-11 23:41:42 UTC
Sansha Claus brings gifts, not salvation.
iskflakes
#5 - 2012-12-11 23:46:46 UTC
Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk)

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2012-12-11 23:56:41 UTC
I see all these pilots less than a year old whining for remaps.

How you can manage to burn through three in that amount of time is beyond me. Getting another one just enables your poor ability to accomplish the most basic time management.

No need for one at Christmas. It's wasted on you people.

Mr Epeen Cool
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2012-12-11 23:59:50 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I see all these pilots less than a year old whining for remaps.

How you can manage to burn through three in that amount of time is beyond me. Getting another one just enables your poor ability to accomplish the most basic time management.

No need for one at Christmas. It's wasted on you people.

Mr Epeen Cool



^^^^^^ T H I S ^^^^^^^^^

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-12-12 00:03:25 UTC
anyone less than 4 years old missed the age of the snowball, they can whine all they want leading up to it but once it happens I think a bunch will shut up.

Those that don't will get larger bounties than the ones I'm sure they currently already have.

The Drake is a Lie
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2012-12-12 00:03:49 UTC
Seriously that on the posts above. I'm at least 6 months past on the one available, but it just ain't time yet.

And I'm always the one brining up the self-entitlement of 21st Century folks.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#10 - 2012-12-12 00:08:52 UTC
New players, and I count anyone under 10m SP, don't have enough information to make informed choices on attribute selections and the likes. It's often the case that they barely know what they'll be doing next week, nevermind a year from now.

Attribute remaps come in really hand. A polarised remap can save months of training each year.
iskflakes
#11 - 2012-12-12 00:14:52 UTC
New players don't know enough about the game to know how important remaps are to get right. Some of them burn all their remaps in the first few weeks and don't even realize why that's a bad thing. There should be consequences for your actions, but it shouldn't be impossible to correct your mistake. Make people pay a lot to fix their remap, that's a serious consequence but makes the game more attractive to new players, and veterans can still have more than one remap per year if they're willing to pay for it.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2012-12-12 00:15:48 UTC
A while back I was grateful for my accumulated hand-out remaps. It let me spend 3 months with "Charisma on Full-Blast", then switch back to something more rational.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Gotch Urarse
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#13 - 2012-12-12 00:21:59 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I see all these pilots less than a year old whining for remaps.

How you can manage to burn through three in that amount of time is beyond me. Getting another one just enables your poor ability to accomplish the most basic time management.

No need for one at Christmas. It's wasted on you people.

Mr Epeen Cool


With all respect, new and not whining. Not all new players are insta-grads. Some of us are just late to the party. We accept long skill plans, trips to low/null and the fact that we need 5-10 fitted ships, ready to go. Just saying.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-12 00:24:12 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Neural remaps should be added to the NEX store for something like 1000 AUR (50m isk)


I too want 5 free remaps with 2011's free aurum

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Kukiri
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-12-12 00:25:14 UTC
Four and a half years old with four remaps still. I think I'm doing it wrong Ugh
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#16 - 2012-12-12 00:33:38 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:


On the flip side, I've heard people a little bit sad/angry they won't get another remap and will be stuck in their current remap longer than planned.



Speaking purely as a player; it baffles me that people plan their strategies around un-announced freebies.
I wouldn't mind a free remap either, but I'd never plan my skilling around the assumption that I'll be getting a free one.

My old manager use to tell me 'to assume, makes an ASS of U and ME Lol

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#17 - 2012-12-12 00:34:16 UTC
I'm not complaining because I have a remap coming up this month
FULL ON SPACESHIP COMMAND BABY Cool

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-12-12 00:34:36 UTC
i started a 400 day per/will plan in July get owned

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-12 00:36:27 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
So, the most recent dev blog talked about Christmas and the celebrations that would be taking place.

Notably absent were neural remaps. We will not be receiving a bonus remap this year.

I've heard people saying this is a good thing (CCP shouldn't give out stuff that has a tangible in-game benefit) and that this is a welcome trend from CCP giving out items that are more than cosmetic.

On the flip side, I've heard people a little bit sad/angry they won't get another remap and will be stuck in their current remap longer than planned.

So, I ask, how does this make you feel? Should remaps be brought back? Should presents always be cosmetic? Should remaps be added to the Aurum store? Discuss!


Perhaps if people didn't "plan" for free re-maps at christmas and expect them as if they were entitled, they wouldn't be relying so much on them and wouldn't be so upset. Christmas gifts = free stuff, at the discretion of the gaming devs. Old saying, don't look a gift horse in the mouth, applies. Be thankful we get free stuff, or next christmas they might consider the lack of appreciation as meaning we don't want anything at all.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Orzo Torasson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-12-12 00:50:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
A while back I was grateful for my accumulated hand-out remaps. It let me spend 3 months with "Charisma on Full-Blast", then switch back to something more rational.


I did this as well, but for a bit longer (all those boosting skills really add up) but the idea of a full 12 months on a full Charisma map makes me feel very negative thoughts towards things that can't defend themselves.

Edit - Altered a very negative and disturbing sentiment! - ISD Suvetar
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