Missions & Complexes

you look like marilyn manson.

My painter/web HAM tengu seems to work decently even on frigs. 850 dps and 600 m/s, 1-2 volleys on regular frigs, 4-6 on elite frigs (with a 2 second refire it basically still tears them up pretty quickly). It also seems to handle full room agro decently. Although I haven't had the pleasure of running WC since Retribution, the only missions that I've pulled that worry me are the few where I'm webbed by like 5-6 elite frigs with battleships and elite cruisers all in my face, but such was the case before Retribution. I might invest in some crystals eventually, but even then it will be probably be to drop a hardener for another TP.

TL:DR AB HAM Tengu ftw. If drones are bad don't use them.

That said... drone pve nerfed hard. They hate drones just enough to make life annoying (or in some cases impractical to use), but not hard enough to use as flak to escape warp distruption (like in wormholes). Drones are now great for lowsec pvp though since the sentries don't agro them anymore.

Epic portrait, thank you :)

For those who do not use drone and think Gallente Boat-driver are crying, just imagine that if you try to use your heavy beam, cruiser will automaticaly dodge it. Imagine that cruiser will automaticaly dodge your autocanon shells. And Imagine cruiser will unpop all your missiles.

Until you get the smallest, then medium, then heavy canon/missile/laser.
Let's put some rocket launcher on your paladin, ******s !

Please CCP, think about Gallente. Did we really need this ?

Drone control range also affects how far out you can control who your sentries shoot.

If anyone generally sent standard drones out 100km they were wasting their time.

And to the OP, FYI there haven't been any drone changes (which in a way is part of the problem). Their were NPC changes. I am sure the Sansha may take offense at you calling their pilots "drones"

just to end with the people crying about those that crying for drones , with their way remove all weapon , remove all the tank,. So you can have full anti ecm or td , enough high sec reps to keep those hobs alive on full room agro , Put sentries although there are ships that actually can handle 4 on drone bay .

The ai is nice to have. CCP should had adressed to work with the missions before they implement it . Going back actually show that people where correct and they did a mistake. Wh environment designed to work like that. High sec werent..


now ***** please ..

The fact you believe this works shows you have no idea what you're talking about. Go try it in an 8/10 tonight and see if you can rep through the damage. I have max rep and drone skills and can't tank in this way.

However, what I do is pull the drone in as soon as it starts taking shield damage and then relaunch and rep it back if needed before it regains the aggro.

The reason the AI change sucks and is terrible is not because it makes pve more difficult, it'd because it makes it more tedious.

Step 1: Use HAM Tengu

Step 2: Profit.

I might be missing something, but what about a micro jump drive?

NPC has you pointed, afaik MJD will still work, only fails against scram.

You are now sufficiently far away from npcs for sentries to decimate frigs.

this has to be the dumbest post ever,

not every ship can field sentries
not every ship can spare a high slot

and congrats for calling people whinning crybabies, then proving you know absolutely nothing!