Missions & Complexes

I've seen a lot of threads about the new mission mechanics.

This thread is not for complaints ot talking about how it's bugged and when fixes will come.

I'm putting out a few suggestions on what L4 mission runners can do to help themselves.


Mission with a buddy.
Spider tank battleships can do a lot in wormholes so don't be scared to learn how to buddy up for L4's.


Try out a small battle cruiser group with a couple of the improved T1 logi's.
This should help get pve combat pilots ready for incursions.


Run scout incursions. 3-5 man group is all that is needed.



One thing I've been curious about but have yet to have time to test is the missions AI compared to incursions.
I know that a single ecm can hold mobs in incursions and Nos on a smaller scale..
Has anyone tested these in the new L4's? Would be nice if all you need is one guy with a massive tank and a bit of EW.


Looking for more suggestions to keep the high sec pve running.

I agree that any single logistics ship would be destroyed.

Would have to be done in pairs. Treat it like an incursion.

Yes, not everyone can. I'm not offering miracles just trying to start a helpful thread.

And i gratefully thank you for that, however the best solution would either fit a MJD or just wait it out a couple of years before CCP even notice an itch on their noses.

When the EW gets fixed the MJD might be a good option. For now it's not worth the effort.

there's a video up where someone in a domi MJD's away from the mission. sets up sentrys and picks them off one at a time. then MJD back to the warp gate and continues on. seems like a great idea for most ships. but EW frigs have amazing range, im impressed they can reach 80km+

...which does nothing to a mjd

It's quite possible the rats are using warp disruptors and not scramblers. Even in PvP, warp scramblers can disable a MWD while a warp disruptor can not.

ahhh, if thats the case then never mind my post lol. My fault for taking an item description at face value

resist tank: I agree with this. I use 90% omni tanked rattlesnakes to "afk-ish" mission. I use spare highs for 2 energy transfers and sometimes swap a battleship for a logistics (basilisk). It's a "just add dps" (with other pilots) setup, and it works better as more pilots are added to gang (even when they don't contribute to the cap chain)

-battleships with dual cap tranfers can pump the basilisk full of cap, or cap chain with other battleships for enough spare cap to run ancillaries empty.

-remote and local reps are redundant, but necessary when your ship is isolated from the gang via ewar. also, T2 cruisers like the heavy interdictor, heavy assault, and command ships have the CPU to fit XL-ASB's

-dps tank: now that full aggro is more likely, I also suggest considering an outgoing dps tank if you can reach the 1000dps range. you'll only be in danger until you get tackle frigs killed.

-1000dps is plenty to make a mission go fast, so my suggestion is 2 ships: 1dps 1 logi

-logi is good for keeping AB/MWD ships juiced at range, like megathrons.

-I don't recommend soloing lvl 4's. I can handle lvl 4's solo with a shield bonused ship, but for those certain lvl4 missions, most solo pilots will find themselves vulnerable for too long. if they're grinding, they'll run into one and get caught.

Thanks for the extra tips everyone.

The resist tank BS using energy transfer with T2 logi seems like a good call.

How well does the logi do when under fire? Do the transfers being run on the RS help hold mobs at all?