EVE General Discussion

This is a very good reason for keeping the bounties the way they are.

However, if you want some easy to use room to increase the payout for high bounty targets, offer a bonus based on the items destroyed seperately from the ships. You cannot increase the payout on ships without opening up exploits with alt collected bounties, but there is plenty of room to increase the bounty paid out on the value of items destroyed (modules, cargo, implants, etc). For example, keep the current bounty of 20% on ship value and offer a bounty of 20% to 40% on the value of the items destoyed depending on how the target ranks on the most wanted list. (Bottom of the list pays 20% for items lost, top of the list pays 40% of the

With this approach, we could get the best of both worlds. If there is a bonus for destoying modules, it gives bounty hunters more modivation to inflict losses that are not covered by insurance. The end result is that the bounty might be more effective than it would be if bounty hunters were equally happy to kill empty (or mostly empty) ships.

I did not make that assumption. Rather, I have the opinion that keeping bounties low is a good thing. If I place a bounty on a person, I want that person to suffer a loss when a bounty hunter collects that bounty, and I want that loss to be a lot more than 1 ISK for every ISK I pay. It is not good enough for self ganking to be marginally unprofitable, it should be as far from profitable as possible while still leaving some modivation to collect the bounty.

If we implement allowing people to limit who can use their bounty (like corp mates only), then giving people some control over the payout percentage might be possible, as this would act as a separate bounty pool. Different percentages cannot function for the common bounty pool, as it would either make it a) insanely complicated to calculate payout or b) completely broken.

Bounty Hunting Connections:

Each level of this skill gives you a bonus to your bounty payout when collecting a bounty.

3% per level.

Attribute: Charisma

Multiplier: x2

*waits for somebody to push the button*

i kinda want you to be a game designer for CCP

Actually I see an easy way to calculate it. Every time someone adds a bounty, the game calculates the new bounty pool size by adding in the isk donated, and the "to be destroyed" pool size, which increases by

New destroyed pool = old destroyed pool + bounty / payout %

The game then calculates the new average payout at

Payout = Bounty / destroyed pool

But to keep that from breaking you would need to limit the minimum and maximum %, say 15% to 30%.

The other way, which I got to think about is Last in First out, and figure out an easy way to handle it when its a big kill, with alot of small contributions being paid all at once. Im sure thats the case you are thinking of thats a mess to calculate. There has got to be an easy way...

IMO the easiest solution would be to.

1) Order bounty payouts from the pool based on highest to lowest initial contribution.

2) Change the notification system to include the lossmail of the person who was killed.

3) In that notification add a button to "Give Bonus" which would accept a percentage of the basic 20% payout (maybe raise it to 30%) which would then be taken from the *active wallet* and distributed between everyone on the killmail in equal share.

4) ???

5) Profit. Oh yeah, a new journal type entry should be made to indicate it's a bounty bonus.

I think the payout should always be relative to their loss. So if you kill a battleship, you get something relative to the dead battleship. If you kill a noobship, it should be a laughable pittance. Otherwise this system will just be lame and abused like the old one.


Basically this:

20% feels too high and it takes away a lot of the griefing potential. 15% sounds good to me , and 20-30% if they are in the top 10.

Also, instituting minimum killright amounts will own. I've been marketing the values of killrights on my alts to the people that hold them in the hopes that they will profit on their own losses.

Not much. If it would be Tekken or something of the sort.

For a roleplay game however, where you "helped" the concord police, it should benefit you, when you have a good standing.
I mean you would get into trouble if you put a bounty on a police officer, wouldnt you?

I doubt this will be overcomplicated, the key is not telling the player more than they need to know. When they look at the bounty pool and see the total sum as well as their personal payout percentage, that's all they need.

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Example:
Say a player has a bounty of 20mio in common pool (so 20%), but also another bounty of 40mio that is set to pay 100% to the corp mates of the issuer and 80% to a trusted merc corporation, 20% for common pool still applies.

A neutral person would see: BOUNTY: 60mio, 20%
A Corpie would see: BOUNTY: 60mio, 73%
Someone from the Merc corp would see: BOUNTY: 60mio, 60%


Now that guy is killed. The appropriate bounty is paid out and drawn equal from all bounty pools.

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