EVE New Citizens Q&A

Would be surprised how many 6+ months characters only know less than the very basic of EVE.

And like said, you can have a 4 year Industry player wanting to go into PvP. It will make him a PvP Noob (though he at least will learn faster cause of the pre knowledge about core game mechanics).

Okay 7.7 months...still WAY shorter then the whining 1 year post of the OP.

No, I agree with the OP. One year is a much more reasonable estimate given that most new players are not going to be able to start with perfect implants and they are not going to be able to maintain a perfect remap.

7.7 months is reasonable for an experienced player's alt where the player has the resources to purchase the required implants and doesn't actually use the character until it is trained up. A new player is going to need time to aquire the implants and will not be able to perfectly focus training to match a specific remap while actively playing the character.

A corp that has a strict policy of requiring 15 million SP is unlikely to be "new player friendly". I expect that the corp didn't think about the SP requirement that they posted, or they have a different expectation of what qualifies as "new player". (From my perspective, 1 year old players are still relatively new.) In any case, it is important to talk to members of a corp before joining. (Remember, you are trusting these people with what little safety you have in EVE.) When you talk to them, it will be come clear if they are friendly to new players like yourself.

We both know that the OP doesn't know everything after 3 days, nor is it relevant to the point at hand.

The point is that corps requiring several months of skill points and using the term "new player friendly" in their recruitment advertisements could do a better job of describing what sort of players they are trying to recruit. Maybe they are targeting new players who use PLEX to buy a fully trained character. As you pointed out: "NO amount of SP will magically make you go from New Player to Veteran". However, if a corp is going to advertise itself as "new player friendly", I would expect them to be friendly to new players, rather than telling new players to get lost until they have enough skill points.

Agreed! Talking to the corp is vital.

And most corporations, if you have a friendly attitude, will respond with a friendly attitude.

I've been in a corp that had 15mil dedicated SP limit (not new player friendly) but if people came to me (as the lead recruiter) with say 10mil SP and right attitude, I at least had a talk with them and looked what I could do. I did gave them some advice what to train up and if they met certain goals in training they could ask again...

This was done cause we were in null-sec, and although we weren't demanding a lot. The one thing we did ask was self sustainability. Which means you at least should have some basic skills that would keep you alive in null.



Also on Corps with SP limit...It's the most stupid requirement policy.

A 100mil Industry SP character joining a 50mil SP minimum PvP corp will have the SP but not the correct one nor the knowledge to join.

A new player can buy a 100mil Combat SP character and apply for the same corp. He will neither be allowed in (or quickly kicked from) the corp cause of lack of knowledge about the game.

But most corporations hold that SP limit for 2 main reasons:

1.) To prevent spy alts from trying. Not many players will dedicated about half a year of training on a spy alt unless it's planted to steal something big.

2.) To make sure you get people with certain knowledge in a field of activity. A corporation that does advanced PvP won't be very useful for a new player, neither will the new player be helpful for the corp (as he will slow the corp down)

Most of the time that limit is meant to weed out spies. But it also ensures that you've specialized in some field, and can use certain T2 ships, which make a greater impact on how operations go in the future. But as a few other people say, attitude is evaluated more so throughout EVE. Besides, I'm currently at 14mil myself at around 3/4 of the year (Lots of screw-ups and bad skilling habits + bad attribute placement)

Don't worry, you'll find a good corp, or you can try making one :P

YTK

Need more game experience before joining corp.

Need to join corp before getting more game experience.

/meme

to quote another member of this community on another thread few weeks ago

Can you fly a rifter
can you use a web and a warp disrupter
you don't mind losing that rifter

than you are in with the big boys ,

( love that quote, and i apologize for so blatantly stealing it )

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Just because a corp has a 15mil skill point requirement doesn't mean they'll never make an exception, and even if they wont, there may be a more suitable corp for you within the same alliance.

To question whether they are legitimately "newbie friendly" or not is not fair. There are many reasons why a corp would have such a requirement. I recruited a player with 48mil skill points a while back with zero combat experience and when he asked what ship he'd be best suited in for a fleet, I told him to get in a rifter.