Intergalactic Summit

Nicoletta Mithra has it correct from MY standpoint. If we are to release the slaves...then what? What of those that desire to stay in the empire hmm? Forcibly against their will to go to the republic?
I note quite often that the radicals often want all there people to returned. But they also never say anything about if they are going to be cared for. And how well. One can not assume that they will be.
If one assumes to much then i can ASSUME the republic is joining the empire tomorrow,as a allied state like the kingdom.

Never make assumptions about what others want. You just don't know what the other is thinking.

It is all well and good to want to free your kinsmen, But Did you ever stop to ask them, IF they want what you want?


I am thinking you haven't.

Misha.

I applaud the words of my Amarrian partners. Yet, I believe you are trying to defeat with reasons and valid arguments what, in the end, is only empty propaganda. Too much effort lost in enlightening those that don't want to be enlightened.

*Sighs* That is a lot of rhetoric to just say that the freed slaves now have no decision in their future. Yes i aknowledge that shooting unarmed transports and slaughtering their crews does much to fuel the animosity tween our positions. You see it as freedom. I consider it murder. There is no difference in slaughtering crews of unarmed transports then the serpentis attack on the planet.

None zip nada.

Muder of innocents rarely advances your cause.

Yes you'll say they were crews of slave transports. That they were not innocent. And other garbage to justify your position and your morals to convince yourselves.

Truth hurts when it hits home.

Misha.

*Laughs* I didn't say it'd leave a mark Lady Ssakaa.

Words can hurt and words can heal. Being able to know the difference and when to apply both is a sign of maturity.

Misha.

So i see you practice the art of one upman ship. While i am skilled at it myself. I will not sully the dead nor their memories that way or anyway.

Good Night Lady Ssakaa. Rest well.
Misha.

I was actually kind of surprised to find myself nodding in agreement with you Ms Kim. Until that is i came to the last sentence.

Must everything be about the Gallente with you? I mean come on. I'm not Gallente so you can't blame them for my thoughts.
Misha.

No, no, no... why do you think this way about me? Of course, not everything...

only the bad things!

Ms Amun,

you make a mistake if you take my behaviour for condescension. Let me tell you: It's not a voluntary descent from my rank or dignity in intercourse with an inferior or a mere courtesy toward inferiors. If I write that the study of semantics might prove to be to your benefit I do so with a honest concern for you and especially your education and with the hope that being pointed in the right direction you might improve yourself. Thus it is grounded in trusting that you can raise yourself above the state you are in and thus trust in you having one of the noblest abilities of humankind.

I'd never suggest to someone inferior how they might improve themselves as those inferior are lacking in their ability to better themselves: Those people therefore need to rely on others in that regard. In respecting you as a free person I pointed out your weakness and suggested how to remedy those. If you feel being treated as a free woman is condescending, you might lack either confidence in your own abilities or are in fact lacking in those abilities of self-improvement. So, would you rather prefer me to treat you as someone not able to take constructive criticism?

And indeed, we're arguing this little "...to us" segment of Ms. Mori's request. I hope, though, that you're able to see that this little segment of Ms. Mori's request doesn't stand alone, but in the context of the request it's a part of? Takeing that context into consideration it is quite clear that my point stands regardless of whether she's talking about the Empire and the Republic or merely about herself and Ms. Luftschreck: Hers is a request to release those slaves to someone specific and your scenario of enforced release of slaves is contrary to that: It's definitely not a request at all.

Also, it doesn't matter if the slaves are released to Ms. Mori or the Republic. If a slave is manumitted, that is liberated, it would be contrary to that liberation to take the choice of where he wants to stay from him and deliver him to any specific person or entity that he himself didn't choose.

So, unless Ms. Mori is coming up with explaining how her request wasn't a request, or how 'to us' doesn't really mean to someone she specified but someone the to-be-liberated will specify in the future once liberated, her request to 'release your slaves to us' is contrary to the liberty that those that would be manumitted would acquire when being liberated.

Faithfully,
N. Mithra

Ms. Amun:

The brilliant part about it must be how I put zero effort into it. I'm thinking you're taking this matter too personal - a matter that actually isn't personal in the slightest.

By the way, I'm not trafficking slaves, especially not within the Republic as the latter is against imperial law. I'd like to request that you'd stop implying that I'm not a law-abiding subject of her Majesty, the Empress.

Also you see me quite puzzled as to how this harmless exchange lead to you embracing the terroristic methods of Ms. Morgan, unless you - which brings me back to my first point - take this far too personal or were searching for something from which you can fabricate a justification for the unjustifiable.

I remain faithfully,
N. Mithra

You're very welcome, Scherezad!

Chutzpah has its merits, but pizzazz is as good at a pinch.