EVE General Discussion

Or make it an entirely different bounty catagory, and then change the color of the wanted tag so that it indicates the bouny or majority of that players bounty is for bad posting.

And then...

Do I really want them spending time doing all that?
I've been waiting for like 6 years to walk around a station.

No, I do not want them spending time coding all that. I would, in fact, be disapointed that resources are being spent on creating out of game mechanics that have in game effects, when it could have been spent getting us new in game content a little faster.

How about the top 10 have a minimum payout that it is a percentage of the total bounty.

Example1 : The #10 bounty with 1b bounty would return minimum 1%
1% of a 1b bounty would pay 10m

Example2: The top #1 bounty with 50b on his head would minimum 1%
1% of a 50b bounty would pay 50m

The player would have to get ganked 100x to actually pay out of the full bounty if they are using cheap stuff.

So... they could gank themselves in frigates for a crap ton per hour?

I understand the current system makes it questionable to hunt down the top guys, but this would just encourage farming.

This method:

Sub-Cap bounty % - 5%
Capital-ship size bounty % - 80%

sounds right, right? the bigger the ship the more share paid out?


How about, no.


Personally, I think the 20% of dmg inflicted is fair and equivocable.

If you lose a taranis, stick a 20mil bounty on the other guy so that it loses 5 taranis vessels before the bounty is gone.

Not, I killed a bait domi @ gate camp for 25mil, then took out faction-fit fleet stabber and got 100mil payout, must be bork bork.


The free method involves intercepting freight (transported ships) and sitting in them while they are blown up, with useless faction mods obtained when the opportunity for a rare module doesn't favour that region of space.

I completely agree that we need a small increase in payout the higher the wanted bounty is, but no more than 40% since once you get to 50% it become profitable to self destruct.


also enforce a SP limit so alts cannot have bounties, and if you wish to make it a really awesome ISK sink?

"make the bounty isk disappear over time if no more bounties are added to someone. so if you have a 10 bill bounty but no one adds a bounty to your char in 2 weeks, reduce 1 bill from it." this one is just an idea and I m quite sure a flawed one...

Have to keep in mind that "alt" doesn't always mean a character on the same account.

I think most peoples alts are more likely seperate accounts. All of my alts log in every day, and have several million SP, but they never undock.

Doesn't really impact being able to put billions of isk worth of bounty on my alt to be in the top 10, if i only need to add to it's bounty every now and then to keep it active.

It's not really a problem if I have billions of isk to spend, and nothing to spend it on.

Admittedly, nothing can really be done to stop it.
However, simpler rules would be better then complex ones, if the complex ones aren't any better at preventing manipulation than the simple rules are.

Just have the isk return to the bounty issuer if the person doesn't undock in a given period of time. Undocking is the essential part of the problem, because you can't shoot what isn't in space, and in my opinion should therefore be the determining factor in a bounty being voided.


Edit: And to be honest, If you're someone that flies in space, and I can make you dock for an extended period of time because yo're afraid of the bounty on you, then I feel I deserve my money back. That should be MY rewrad.

If I can't be reward by causing you to explode, then i should be rewarded by getting my ISK back for making you dock for 3 months.

I fully support an increase in the bounty percentage payout. Of the 1.5 Billion I've placed, targets were hit 10 times so far, but only like 12,000,000 has paid out.

Well, while you're cogitating, throw this idea into the mix.

CCP wisely chose to limit the bounty payout to a maximum of 20% of the ship/pod loss in order to forestall exploiting of the bounties by the target using insurance. But as a consequence, the bounties are widely perceived as not being enough of an inducement for bounty hunters to go after the individual (with the notable exception that bounties *may* induce bounty hunters to declare war on the target's corp in order to take CONCORD out of the mix).

So, why not reduce the insurance payout? Insurance is supposed to cushion the blow, especially for newer players. So leave the current mechanics in place for T1 frigate deaths. But as the target's ship class moves up the scale (indicating that they are no longer "newbies"), reduce the insurance payout and increase the bounty percentage in lockstep. So, for example, a T1 cruiser/industrial hull can pay out a maximum of 25% of loss, a BC 30%, a T2 frigate/cruiser/BC/indy 35%, a T1 BS 40%, Marauder or Black Ops BS 45%, and anything bigger 50%. That keeps *some* insurance for the target, but also increases the payout for bounty hunters when hunting juicier targets WHICH ARE NOT NEWBS. Again, as the bounty percentage increases, the insurance payout reduces. That means being the target (and losing) stings just a little bit more.

MDD

Not sure if i like the idea of a time peroid, you could argue that the bounty system will lose it's value, imagine someone putting a big bounty on someone, the person doesn't undock for 6 months, then the money disappears. I'd feel kinda cheated, money wasted.

If you like the idea of the bounty being reimbursed to the player who put it up, this doesn't stop the player to put the bounty on his alt again as soon as he gets reimbursed. So that doesn't solve much either.

A solution could be that the top bounty person has to be active if not, he doesn't appear on the top bounty list, but the bounty will never expire.

The problem here now is, how do you define, active and inactive.

For example, Person A, active, has a trillion bounty and has the most bounty in EVE Online.
Person B, less bounty, second on the list.
Person A gets flagged inactive for not flying or online in space, or is just sitting in space cloaked all the time.
Person B will now be on top of the list because A was flagged inactive.
To get to the active list again it would require more than logging on for a brief moment.

The problem here would be, how do you get flagged inactive or active?
Requiring person A to generate a killmail could be a solution, but killing an alt would be a way to cheat the system.
Requiring person A to generate a lossmail isn't much of a solution either, blowing yourself up in a rookie ship
every 6 months would be a way to cheat this system.

I think the best way i can think of on the spot, it to require the person to travel a minimum of X amount of systemjumps in a certain time-peroid to be considered active. People who are actually hunting the top target could run locators and try to catch the active person jumping into another system.