EVE General Discussion

That's the problem m8, they bit off more than they could chew. They didn't think before they acted, and made avatars and environments so detailed that they were then limited how many avatars they could put in one space, and realized only THEN how badly they had screwed up. What CCP advertised Incarna to be would be at LEAST another year down the road. Another year of rejecting to address FiS, and another year of core customers unsubbing, PvP and 0.0 stagnating and everything else that goes along with total neglect of FiS.

CCP probably wouldn't BE in this debacle if they could have delivered what they promised, when they promised. But instead, they seriously overestimated themselves, and Hilmar admitted just as much in his letter, when he spoke about hubris. They can't release what they have because it's crap and can't practically work, and they can't spend another year neglecting FiS to make it work. It's time to move on, that's what they're doing. Maybe when the PC tech catches up with the tech CCP built for Incarna, they'll be able to practically revisit the whole thing.

Congratulations. Welcome to the real world.

I too, joined this spaceship simulation game to play dress up and tea parties. How dare they remove tea parties and add to the spaceship simulation?!

OHHHH if only there were some other game out there that would give me my fill of prancing around in humanoid form.

Get a grip you morons, eve has been spaceships for 8 years, Who the **** are you to expect anything different? It's no different to playing need for speed and complaining that you can't get out of the cars, beat up prostitutes and steal helicopters.

This. What some people here don't get is the fact that both could have been realized as different ressources were working on avatars and FiS mostly.

EVE had attracted a whole bunch of new players and - sorry to say that - but when I read the alliance names of the absolutely anti-WiS crew talking about space-barbie crap... I feel like sitting on the lap of my grandpa and he tells me about the glorious times when there were no mobile phones. Only I actually could tell that story to my kids if I had any, since grandpa has been dead for 20 years and I remember that mobile phones were bricks when I was twenty.

I think - aside from the leaked letter and the NEX store - both things I was enraged about myself:
MANY just leave because they have played this game without interruption for too many years. There is nothing new in it for them and the shiniest newest features will only hold them a few more months. The best indicator for that is: I have played EVE for over four years now with small interruptions and . That is much longer than I played any other MMO. Still many seem to think: If you haven't been there since Beta, you must be a noob.

Open up to evolution or see yourself drop out of the game because you finally get too bored without any replacement by new players, because there is no further game evolution and the old playerbase is stagnant and single-minded. And often somewhat arrogant - I don't even exclude myself on that point.

Many - definitely not all - new players came and now see that what they came for - a space simulation including multi-player on Avatar base - effectively scrapped. Lets face it: STO stinks, but one of the first things players there cried for was being able to visit their bridge and invite people to it. Because social interaction IS important to many and just being a ship feels weird even to me.

Also I wonder how they want to "integrate" DUST with EVE when there will be no fully functional WiS.

I say it over and over again... if you joined a game for wiggly little legs that doesn't have wiggly little legs, you joined the wrong game. Who's fault is that? Second Life is thadaway --->

You should learn to read better. I and many others joined this game exactly for what it had to offer. Excellent spaceship simulation. That was years ago and I still find new stuff in space to do.

We were looking forward to a new feature which was advertised heavily in addition to that. I will not leave the game, but I will laugh me arse off when it turns out that winter expansion will be a small package for FiS, too, and oh-so wordy "go to second life barbies" idiots like you whine again.

Or do I call you and the alliance blobsters "Blue Blobopaths" and tell you that Black Prophecy is that way --> every time I post? I limit myself to every second time.

OK, that was a good one, grant you that!

You're right... I think I'll buy the new Oblivion game for the Invasion of Normandy level. I hope I'm not disappointed.

I've wanted ambulation/incarna/wis since I first started playing in 05, but I do _not_ think it should take priority away from other aspects of the game that need to be looked at or fixed. The fact that they were pushing Incarna out when so many other features in the game were either broken, or not working as intended, is what was really annoying me.

Hopefully at some point they do continue development of Incarna. But on that same note I also hope that they wait until they can deliver on the pending features and fixes that the game is in dire need of. Especially those that only serve to correct other "dead in the water" and broken features that they have already implemented.

Not to mention that the entire idea of releasing 1 room to us as part of Incarna made any sense. They should have waited until the mechanics were in place to release a more substantial WIS build.

Because as it stands, I feel like THIS when pigeonholed into my little CQ with no toilet to speak of.

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