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Iteron IV must have an additional low slot !

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MrTiddle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-08 08:42:27 UTC
Hello pilots of New Eden, what do you think of the extra forth low slot added for an Itty IV?

I think it's really deserve that otherwise it's just a huge gap between IV & V.

With maxed Industrial ship skills + T2 expanded cargoholds + 3 medium cargo optiisations we have in total

- Iteron IV 20687m3 vs. Iteron V 38433m3

Even the Hoarder vs Mammoth ; Badger vs. Badger Mark II is only 8k m3 difference.


So please think of it but for me it's definatelly an issue.
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-12-08 10:53:39 UTC
MrTiddle wrote:
Hello pilots of New Eden, what do you think of the extra forth low slot added for an Itty IV?

I think it's really deserve that otherwise it's just a huge gap between IV & V.

With maxed Industrial ship skills + T2 expanded cargoholds + 3 medium cargo optiisations we have in total

- Iteron IV 20687m3 vs. Iteron V 38433m3

Even the Hoarder vs Mammoth ; Badger vs. Badger Mark II is only 8k m3 difference.


So please think of it but for me it's definatelly an issue.




but for hoarder or mammoth you dont need lvl5 skill (and theres a big gap between lvl4 and lvl5 skil)

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Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2012-12-08 11:13:33 UTC
Crap > Shinier Crap > Passable > Okay > Best...

Soon the last remnants of the Tier System will be rooted out strongholds by Glorious Generals Fozzie and Yitterbalm. Let us hope they have the good sense to surrender peacefully!

Glory to the new Separate in Purpose / Equal in Value Industrial Class!
Long Live the Balance Revolution!

o/
Dave stark
#4 - 2012-12-08 11:20:20 UTC
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.
It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-08 12:16:12 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.


Fairly sure they've stated that industrial ships will not be affected by tiericide.
Dave stark
#6 - 2012-12-08 12:17:24 UTC
It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.


Fairly sure they've stated that industrial ships will not be affected by tiericide.


really? well that's ******* boring.
Claude Kuichi
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-09 01:06:09 UTC
hmmm, tierization of Industrial it's an interesting idea.

But back to discussion, yeah the extra 4k-5k of m3 in addition to the max cargo hold of Iteron IV would be really handfull, otherwise it's loosing the atractiveness cause you can always have Mammoth with min. ind IV and it gives you more than 22k of cargo hold.

cheers
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#8 - 2012-12-09 02:57:38 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.


Yes, that's a very interesting question.

How many T1 Industrials does Amarr and Minmatar have?
Alara IonStorm
#9 - 2012-12-09 03:02:08 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.


Yes, that's a very interesting question.

How many T1 Industrials does Amarr and Minmatar have?

I think they should do 3. 3 of the Iterons, the 3 Badgers and the 3 Minmater ones then add one to Amarr. The other 2 Gallente ones can be slight variations or collectors items.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172083

Here was my idea a while ago.
MrTiddle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-10 01:10:13 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Salpad wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.


Yes, that's a very interesting question.

How many T1 Industrials does Amarr and Minmatar have?

I think they should do 3. 3 of the Iterons, the 3 Badgers and the 3 Minmater ones then add one to Amarr. The other 2 Gallente ones can be slight variations or collectors items.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172083

Here was my idea a while ago.



Hi, Alara

that's an interesting and a way deeper look into that topic. I've never think this way. So my initial post is more "lighter" than yours.
I was thinking that much more people are worried about such difference in tech specs. But now i'm not sure ;)

Anyway will see how it goes further.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-10 03:33:20 UTC
BattleBadger?
MrTiddle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-10 08:20:24 UTC
Flurk Hellbron wrote:
BattleBadger?


there is enough funny videos of baitting Iterons/Mammoths/Badgers taking down BS's.
Kookman
Bastion 437
#13 - 2012-12-10 09:52:42 UTC
Iteron IV to Iteron V is not a case of Crap to Best.

Iteron IV is much more agile and faster compared to the Iteron V which is capable of more heavy lifting. Both are equally desirable for specific duties.
Alara IonStorm
#14 - 2012-12-10 10:17:38 UTC
Kookman wrote:
Iteron IV to Iteron V is not a case of Crap to Best.

Iteron IV is much more agile and faster compared to the Iteron V which is capable of more heavy lifting. Both are equally desirable for specific duties.

It actually isn't. The IV is 0.5 Secs more Agile and 16m/s faster while having 2 less lows. The V can surpass that difference with those 2 extra lows and still have more Cargo.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#15 - 2012-12-10 20:44:57 UTC
Kookman wrote:
Iteron IV to Iteron V is not a case of Crap to Best.

Iteron IV is much more agile and faster compared to the Iteron V which is capable of more heavy lifting. Both are equally desirable for specific duties.


Please stop posting crap.
Mortimer H
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-12-11 10:08:33 UTC
Quote:
... otherwise it's just a huge gap between IV & V.

If you just unfit an Expanded Cargohold in your Mark V the gap will be much smaller.
The Mark V being impressively big is no sensible reason to give your other ships more cargohold.
MrTiddle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-11 10:15:06 UTC
Mortimer H wrote:
Quote:
... otherwise it's just a huge gap between IV & V.

If you just unfit an Expanded Cargohold in your Mark V the gap will be much smaller.
The Mark V being impressively big is no sensible reason to give your other ships more cargohold.



what is your point? i'm talking about low slot exactly becasue it will allow to minimize those huge gap just up to big gap.
Mortimer H
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-12-11 10:28:21 UTC
My point: I don't think the gap is there because of the Mark IV being small but because of the Mark V being big. Therefore I don't see a problem with the Mark IV.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-11 10:58:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
it'll be interesting to see what tiericide does to industrials, especially the gallente ones since there's 5 of them to give a unique quirk to.

caldari is easy. big and slow, small and fast. but for gal they're going to have to be far more inventive.


Fairly sure they've stated that industrial ships will not be affected by tiericide.
You mean their cargo won't be affected. I'm pretty sure they'll be doing something about how little industrials have the same sig radius as and only marginally better align time than bigger industrials.

To the OP: I think it's less important to note the large gap between Iterons IV and V, and more important to note the lack of gap between III and IV. The IV needs another low slot because without it, it's just a smaller, slower, squishier III with a slightly bigger cargohold. I had Gallente Industrial trained to 4 for a while, and I still flew a Mark III because it honestly seemed superior overall.

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School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-12-11 11:15:39 UTC
if youre not flying an itty 5, you should be flying a bestower.
all other T1 haulers are useless.

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