EVE General Discussion

I don't think they really hate it more so the fact that High Sec has gotten much more love from the devs then their side of the sand box. If Null and Low had a bit of a buff you would see a lot less "haters" and a lot more people getting others into Ship warfare.

The current ganks and other anti High Sec stuff has always happened it's just a more common event then before.

And just as we carebears hate when someone says we should go kill other players they hate when the 'real carebears' try to make High Sec safer then it needs to be.

It's your community and their completely negative: "I WILL DO WHATEVER I WANT TILL THE POLICE SHOTS ME IN THE HEAD" mentality that is so strong in these days.

What about if you kept doing boomerang like everybody else, with a minimum of cunningness? That is with a minimum of moderation?

BUT NO! Gotta spread the Gospel about how to industrially do it so the game grinds to an halt and then the developers feel they have to step in and insta nerf it!


What about if you did an HEALTHY AND NEEDED Hulkageddon like there's always been one in the last years? You'd have got the damn tears, EvE economy would have been relieved like only Hulkageddons can do, bots would have burned in flames and legit miners would have rejoyced.

BUT NO! Gotta dilute it making it (pretend) permanent and so much industrialized / optimized that you have made tabula rasa, scorched earth for months till the developers had to step in and nerfed it to dust.

Now the part time gankers with just 2 accounts are FUBARED because of YOU.
The part time organized salvagers cooperating with the above are FUBARED becase of YOU. We did not need you in the balls. Even if I stopped making 50M a day due to salvaging wrecks for others and I don't care, many new players could have used such amount of ISK.
The part time logistics / miners defense mercs are FUBARED because of YOU, who killed their job (now not needed).


Your never ending greed to fu*k with whatever you can touch has brought down the gameplay of many beginning with you yourselves and you don't even see it.



Now let's see if you can at least organize a proper Hulkageddon for 2013 or you will blame hi sec for your lack of Tech imbued ISK.




Ninja edit: I will link this thread in the next year

We don't run hulkageddon, thats someone elses baby.

I don't really care about your personal desire (or lack of same) for easy wins, as good games and good game mechanics have good gameplay, and people tend to prefer good games and good game mechanics over poor games and poor game mechanics no matter what they like to say about their personal preference on the easiness of pwning face.

So basicly you are saying EvE is a bad games? Why don't you just send me your stuff and quit since it's so damn bad?

Miners still dont tank their ships and its still cheap to blow them up. We will also more than likely donate prizes along with many others.

So it's going to happen? In that case I'd also send a donation to HB!

High sec is not "land of the easy gank" at all. The easy ganks comes from the ship being flow and the way said ship are flown. My completely untanked retriever deserve to be called a **** fit and could easyly ganked but that is not because of the rules of high sec but because of my fitting being optimised for yield and not tank. If everybody did what is required to tank thier ship correctly, ganking would go down quite a lots because it would be an isk sink for the player doing it.

Also, the fact that I am not against ganking of defenseless ships does not mean I am actually doing said ganking. You could search for my kill board and you would find exactly nothing because it is not what I do in game but I still understand why it is correct for the game to play that way.

Some ganks are easy for only one reason and that is the massive amount of people running shitfits. Freighter are also related to being ****-fitted because people shoose the wrong ship/method to haul thier stuff around.

There's a lot of truth in that Frostys, and I only got to talking about difficulty in reply. My objection is less about difficulty (people just argue for and against hit point buffs and nothing really changes except the level of co-ordination or determination required to gank) and more about how the system produces preordained results with little gameplay value that takes the action out of the hands of players and encourages use of loopholes and evasion of consequences that reduce the potential for interesting emergent conflict and protect the wrong people at the wrong times. Those are the reasons I don't see high sec in a very positive light.

I want a prize!!!