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Is Multi-playing ruining your Eve?

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Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#41 - 2011-10-22 02:16:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirime Nolwe
Having alts it's good, playing them at same time it's not and defeats the purpose of playing in a group. As we all know most people take advantage of using more then one alt for neutral repping, scouting, mining, missions, stats boost etc

As a MMO the game should motivate players to play together as a team. Otherwise we will see the stuff that happens in EVE, a lot of players play the game alone but with 3/4/5/6 accounts, i dont have anything against playing as a loner i do not agree with playing alone with more then one account at same time.

In PVP that make all the difference with all the neutral scouting and buffing and repping. It's not game breaking but for me that should be addressed, even if it costs a few accounts for CCP.
Mal Mandrake
Space Goat Likes it Rough
#42 - 2011-10-22 08:05:27 UTC
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In PVP that make all the difference with all the neutral scouting and buffing and repping. It's not game breaking but for me that should be addressed, even if it costs a few accounts for CCP.



I have to wonder how many accounts have already been lost due to issues such as these. It is no secret that the Eve community isn't growing. When you see 40k people logged on, how many players is that really?

I'm gonna go on a limb and say maybe it IS game breaking.

The neutral scouts make gate camps only about killing the single account players. The neut repps (from multiple accounts, because it IS possible to have neut repps from actual people) make pvp about killing single account players. Or at least makes pvp risk-free for multiple account players.

How about the market? How has all these mining alts effected ore prices? This in turn effects all other prices in Eve.

We know about the big nullsec wars in the last few months... All the scandal! Isn't that really rooted in multiple accounts and botting?

Is this CCP's fault, or the players fault?

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
#43 - 2011-10-22 08:35:40 UTC
Mal Mandrake wrote:
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I'm gonna go on a limb and say maybe it IS game breaking.

Is this CCP's fault, or the players fault?

Well we all know CCP actively encourages people to use multi accounts so you can't really say it's game breaking.

I think one of the main reasons it's so widespread is that most activities in EVE don't require you to perform a lot of actions. Take a 3D shooter, you have to be concentrated all the time so there simply isn't any opportunity to play another character at the same time, let alone three. In EVE things are far more slower and automated.
Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#44 - 2011-10-22 08:42:55 UTC
There are a few game play styles that lead to the need/want for a second account.

For example in a fleet fight do you want to be the one in an off grid booster? Sitting there alone away from the combat? This is better handled by an alt.

Or being the Cyno for a fleet of caps/supers. This is better handled by an alt as well.

Mining is done with multiple accounts at the same time due to the need to haul and mine at the same time.

Its the way that the game is designed from its core that certain activities are better with an alt.

I have dual boxed PVP pilots and that is a challenge, its not something I enjoy doing but I have done it in the past.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-10-22 09:04:23 UTC
Personally, I don't care and it doesn't matter to me if a player has 1 account or 100 accounts.

This game is an MMO, so if players are Dual Boxing, Triple Boxing or even Quad Boxing it doesn't make this game anything less.

I have 2 active accounts but only 1 account is online at a time.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2011-10-22 09:35:52 UTC
I held off getting an alt for years but recently came to the conclusion that if I want to go back to null sec I need a money making alt - in the form of an industrialist.
Mal Mandrake
Space Goat Likes it Rough
#47 - 2011-10-22 10:04:42 UTC
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I think one of the main reasons it's so widespread is that most activities in EVE don't require you to perform a lot of actions. Take a 3D shooter, you have to be concentrated all the time so there simply isn't any opportunity to play another character at the same time, let alone three. In EVE things are far more slower and automated.



Good point.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#48 - 2011-10-22 10:21:24 UTC
Nothing wrong with multiple accounts if it gets the job done.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-10-22 10:41:14 UTC
The need to multi-box reveals flaws in the design of basic gameplay. If activities in an MMO are so uninvolving that they are best performed by a mostly unattended box, then perhaps those activities ought to be redesigned.

Mining/Hauling is a big obvious one. So is gang-linking.

Why would a game company create so many parts of a game that people obviously don't want to play?

I have dabbled with having 2 accounts, but found it so immersion breaking that I quit. It changed the game from a space-ship RPG into a isk-optimization activity. I made better isk, but had way less fun.

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2011-10-22 11:06:04 UTC
there is many problems with team-paying style in Eve:
1. time zones
If you need someone to help you with some stuff and no one around atm..... You need to wait/wake up your mates/use alts.

2. Lack of trust to other players
Most of a time without knowing person in RL you can't trust him in Eve enough. This is about scouting, cyno-, hauling, salvaging, etc....

3. Some important tasks are boring
Tasks like hauling stuff around the universe in frighter, maintaining POS, PI, mining, etc.... These tasks are really boring. Almost no one will play long enough if you limit his playing style by this boring BUT IMPORTANT FOR THE TEAM tasks.

Yes. It affects other players. But Eve is MMO game so you always feel other players some way. And using alts for boring stupid tasks safes you time to do other playing style like pvp, team-work and other. So from this end alts make the game more interesting.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#51 - 2011-10-22 11:20:51 UTC
Pinaculus wrote:
Why would a game company create so many parts of a game that people obviously don't want to play?

That isn't why people have multiple accounts, it's simply so you can be specialised in multiple areas.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#52 - 2011-10-22 11:36:19 UTC
I'm a noob, but not long after starting Eve I realized a second account could enrich my gaming experience:

- My main (this one) is purely PvP focused with the intention of getting into FW sometime in the furture.
- My second account is an industrialist (mining, PI, production and small time hauler).

This approach, IMHO, allows me to experience several facets of Eve, in a timely manner, without having to spread my skill points and micromanage skill queues for two or three characters on one account. Whilst my second account tends to be played stand alone, there have been times when it has assisted my main and fellow corp mates too.

I should point out that I never go AFK when playing, the character in space gets my full attention and the non active character stays docked.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2011-10-22 11:42:12 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
alts are great.

it allows you to play every aspect of eve in way less time but for a price (aka another sub)

main can be a pvp toon alt 1 an indy toon and alt2 a capital pilot. alt 3 can be trader alt, and alt 4 & 5 cyno alts

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.

Fer DeLance
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#54 - 2011-10-22 11:44:06 UTC
The fact that you need a "cyno alt" just to make a capital move from one system to the other, is the main reason i don't even play in 0.0 at all. I hate it when you have to rely on others to do whatever you want to do. Having an alt just to do this, is something i never understood.

I did't have any alts for four years. Then i made an alt that is doing support work, like gang, haul, scout etc, never got involved into a fight with it, i can't play two clients simultanusly, it's hard for me. I guess the main reason i have an alt, is because i can easily pay for it at the moment, buying plexes. If, in the future becomes hard for me to pay for the alt, the alt will be gone...

I generally don't agree with the alts idea, but who cares... It's established years ago, makes good money for CCP, most people like it, many mechanisms of the game require it.

Mail Lite
The Reason is Treason
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2011-10-22 13:03:56 UTC
The main annoying one to me is the combat pilot/ falcon alt combo... Unless it's me running it and then it's fair deal.
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2011-10-22 13:11:50 UTC
Running one and only one shroom here Cool
5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!  If You Like My Sig, Like Me!   Remember EVE is EVErything!
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2011-10-22 14:40:24 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Don't come crying to us when we shoot down your ship because you jumped through blind.


Happened to me more than once. Didn´t give a shlt and still don´t.Cool

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

Cunane Jeran
#58 - 2011-10-22 14:49:49 UTC
Use to run 2 accounts, but circumstances changed, so now I'm down to one account, and one character who is a jack of all trades. Actually enjoying it more, its really made me think about my skill training
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#59 - 2011-10-22 15:30:13 UTC
my every acc is fully sustainable isk wise and gives significant profit so i could have 10 of them if i wanted. also i dont know what to do with all those isk. what are you supposed to do in this game again?
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