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Full Room Agro Hotfixed?

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Anneliese Pollard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-08 04:19:32 UTC
Have done 2 missions:

Unauthorized Military Presence (Angel)
Serpentis Extravaganza

I can pull groups again without full room agro. AI is unchanged but manageable now.

Anyone else confirm?
Ahn Tee Mahtur
#2 - 2012-12-08 04:31:56 UTC
Mordus Headhunters still full room aggro.
MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-08 08:11:10 UTC
Vengence Sansha, still full room aggro (and jesus it hurts)
Bobby Rooney
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-12-08 12:55:33 UTC
I got full room aggro in massive attack (serpentis) in the first pocket, with many scram frigates. At the moment when i send out light drones they all switch to the drones and killed them all in 10 secs, and switched back to me (i was still scrammed). My mission ship can tank a lot of damage, but not for infinite time. That's how i lost a paladin.
Xalanax
Miskatonic Mercantile
#5 - 2012-12-08 19:52:05 UTC
No.. Sansha in Worlds Collide just scrapped my Mach
MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-08 19:54:55 UTC
Xalanax wrote:
No.. Sansha in Worlds Collide just scrapped my Mach


Meant to update this to say Angels in worlds collide melted my Raven, then proceded to work through my double rep domi as if it was butter.

Ive run both sites solo in that domi and never had to even warp out before never mind crap myself and spam warp button
Xalanax
Miskatonic Mercantile
#7 - 2012-12-08 19:59:09 UTC
I had done the mission before in a Mael, bout a month ago, so I didn't expect the kinda trouble I had just walked into.... just got that ship too.. did not get to spam warp like you did however.
Naomi Reiku
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-12-08 20:07:47 UTC

The Assault, Serpentis, still full aggro. Tested 30 mins ago.
Novakhiin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-12-08 21:21:28 UTC
Last night - the Blockade lvl 3 warped out at 63% hull in my loki, nearly crapped my pants after shooting the triggers. ..
Anneliese Pollard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-08 22:12:23 UTC
I want to try Worlds Collide Serpentis/Gurista, but I have the usual concerns. I've been lucky enough to maintain my light drones in most of my missions since patch. However, I have concerns about my tank in this one.

Given that I'm doing around 550-650 tank for each of them, I'm contemplating dropping some drone damage amps for more power relays and a XL ASB.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-08 22:17:54 UTC
Anneliese Pollard wrote:
I want to try Worlds Collide Serpentis/Gurista, but I have the usual concerns. I've been lucky enough to maintain my light drones in most of my missions since patch. However, I have concerns about my tank in this one.

Given that I'm doing around 550-650 tank for each of them, I'm contemplating dropping some drone damage amps for more power relays and a XL ASB.



WC is ok.
Okuu Reiuji
PEETOOSHKEE PRIMARY OK
#12 - 2012-12-08 22:23:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Okuu Reiuji
King of The Hill 13/13 Amarr Storyline COSMOS mission - full aggro in every room.
16 BS, 6 BC and 4 cruisers (almost each can neut) in room 4 at once is kinda crazy.


BTW, I think all NPCs just have about 40-50km proximity aggro, in certain missions groups which are too far don't aggro. It's not right anyway, cuz most dps'y missions have entire swarm of enemies too close to your warp in.

Also, is it just me, or NPC's who sometimes used shield boosters or repair modules before patch are now permarunning it (pretty much like every module they have now)?
Anneliese Pollard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-09 00:11:52 UTC
WC was fine except I did have to spin up the XL ASB once in the serpentis room and once in the gurista room. The incoming DPS was way too high.

Only issue I had was with my sentries. As soon as I dropped them, all BSes went after one. I managed to pull it.
Sammybear
Pyke Syndicate
Solyaris Chtonium
#14 - 2012-12-09 00:48:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Sammybear
Its weird they gave the npc's sleeper ai, but kept the rewards pretty gimped (not really advocating for more money from missions, but this does fly in the face of their risk vs reward philosophy).

I have also noticed that several npcs do use their rep's WAY more often, the frigs use them damn near constantly.
Clayten Bigsby
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-12-09 01:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Clayten Bigsby
WC Angel full room melted my dominix. I used a TP to get aggro and still had drone aggro trying to kill the scramming frigs. Couldn't warp out, ccp returned my ship through petition.
DSpite Culhach
#16 - 2012-12-09 01:57:51 UTC
Is this the new CCP policy of making PvE missions feel like PvP combat, cause basically we're being ganked atm, so they pretty much have it spot on.

I really don't mind if CCP came out and said "we're stepping up missioning so you have to bring a group of people, and you can no longer do it solo" as long as we got a heads up and rewards are scaled to fit with that concept, cause frankly, since I started playing I have only seen running L4's as the "you're new at this game, you have low SP, so the only way for you to make some starting ISK is to grind these missions till you want to blow your brains out".

I used to read the same thing from people playing Global Agenda and grinding the PvE group missions as they were as repetitive as all hell - and I have like 640 hours in that game - and if CCP managed to turn that around and make missioning more of a "lets see what we get today" rather then a "oh I just got AA, let me check my notes: 20 minutes run, 40 mill full salvage" sorta thing, it would be much appreciated.

I guess since EVE is really PvP centric, missioning wont be a priority, but I can dream.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Zornia Estemaire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-09 02:14:13 UTC
Just did Vengeance (serp) and it was full room aggro except the 3rd room. Lost 4 drones and had to warp out 3 times. I've never lost a drone in this mission before or had to warp out. Don't mind the drone changes but adding on full foom aggro also makes it crazy.Shocked
Tildah
Dosadi Inc.
#18 - 2012-12-09 12:57:06 UTC
WC sansha/angels avoid .. it is leathal ... stage 2 on both side get full room aggro , warp scramble by 2-3 frigates , webbed , and weapon disrupted by 2 BS npc who move to 45k optiomal .

this is not fun at all


Tildah
Motalula Mingetickler
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-09 13:36:59 UTC
I did Vengeance on patch day & that was enough to convince me to give the Micro Jump Drive a go, It's working extremely well with my twin sensor booster Hyperion in a lot of missions & range scripts give me half a chance to offset the NPC EWAR.

The new jump drive is supremely good.
Rory Ian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-12-09 15:08:19 UTC
Caldari COSMO Lost Love - Wei Tadaki 2/3. Full room aggro on the first room. My buddy and I tried to run it. I was in my CNR and he in a normal Raven. I managed to tank it for maybe a minute before fleeing. He ended up in structure.

The issue I have is that once this expires I wont be able to complete the arc and get the big reward which is somewhat annoying.
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