EVE General Discussion

They be worm feed mmkay...

What's the deal? A flaring up of drone sales, and then the market dies as players have adapted. Suppose there is too much strain on the servers from drones, so CCP are killing them.

It licks monkey balls imho.

In before the hammering

This. The entire reason for the AI changes was to KILL afk rattlers and domis. So please OP, hold a bucket under your face and collect all of your delicious tears for me to drink.

Everytime someone says "you lose all your drones in seconds even in level 1s now" I go to test that with Dragoon/Algos and all I will get is:

to get bored while trying to lose my first flight of lights.

I have:
- 1,1 million SP in drones
- only two drone skills at level 5: Drones and Scout Drone Operation
- most drone support skills at level 4
- Drone Durability at level 2

Rat yellow boxes after red boxing -> recall/scoop drones
Rat is still red boxing -> everything is good, continue
No aggro -> be careful with your drones, don't launch them too early

You obviously have never been in a wormhole before. The AI and NPC ships in missions are still vastly inferior to wormholes/incursions/ded complexs. If anything, level 4 missions pay out too much compared to the level of effort required.

Drones are doing all the work it seems, maybe they should get a cut of your bounties since they are taking all the risk.

That's why I never listen to nullbears. They judge everything by themselves: I did this, I did that, I never lost a ship in my entire life, I never miss, I did L4 mission in my pod.

No one ever thinks about new players or people with bad playing skills.
Try doing missions in t1-2 BS with T1 stuff and level 2-4 skills, then talk.

I've managed to lose one light drone to NPC's since the patch, there again I cut my Eve Teeth in WH space where drones are just snacks for the sleepers.

Funky Lazers has obviously never been in a wormhole, or if he has, he's forgotten that sleepers aren't just a bit harder to kill, they're considerably harder to kill, a universal 70% resist gives even sleeper frigates a monster of a tank, normal hisec NPCs are cuddly and cute when compared to sleepers.

There are no bounties and no sec status increases for killing them. If you want to make Isk out of sleepers you have to salvage and loot, then you have to actually get the stuff safely to market which for higher end wormholes involves travelling through hostile WHspace, as well as probably losec and/or nullsec depending on how unlucky you are with statics, generally without the use of the logistics networks that lo and null residents have in place.

In summary WH residents have lived with an extremely aggressive NPC AI that just loves to munch on drones since 2009, it makes the new Kspace AI look like an adorable puppy, aggro & drone management is the key, learn to TP, RR your drones or ECM, the new AI will hate you for it and switch aggro accordingly.



Don't fly a BS if you don't have the support skills, stick to a BC while training them, they're totally capable of running level 4 missions with decent support skills. Bigger is not always better.

If you generate more threat than your drones there isn't a problem.

Learn to field sentries, they draw less aggro. Have to train into those?

I guess that says a lot about CCP's opinion of bad pilots and cheap T1 light/med/heavy drones.