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Cher Lloyd
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#1 - 2012-12-07 00:54:17 UTC
missiles suck now!!!

ccp wont be happy until every ship and module in eve is the same!!!!!!!!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-12-07 01:05:20 UTC
My god...its full of content!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2012-12-07 02:59:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Well they buffed Standards, Torpedo's Rockets, HAM's T2 Missiles of all types but yeah Missiles are ruined.

Never mind what the Fleet Drake is still capable off.

[Drake, Rebalance Fleet Drake]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I


Warrior II x5

Someone better at this will probably come along with a better setup but 81k EHP lowest resist, 440 Fury DPS out to 55km / 520 with Drones, 374 DPS with CN Ammo out to 72km / 455 with Drones I am not crying.

The Drake may have been nerfed but it hasn't had its balls cut off and is better for short range with HAM's. Caracal hasn't been nerfed either, it got two more BCU Slots and better fitting. Cerb has more balance coming its way along with the CN Caracal.

Only thing they nerfed it on is the Tengu by 5% Dmg and that is not all that much with new HAM options and the fact that people used long range Missiles in short range combat.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-07 03:31:02 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
My god...its full of content!




I'll give this troll 2/10 for the lack of content oddly enough. If I see one more eft says this thread I will scream. His barebones approach I like for some reason. Why post content when there is none in the first place.
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-12-07 03:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Zan Shiro wrote:
If I see one more eft says this thread I will scream.

Feel free to scream. I have been looking at how to use the Drake since the expansion since I have 4 lined up with Heavy Missiles. I made the switch to HAM's because they are better for smaller gangs where Heavies were better before but I am not to worried about the Fleet Drake in its role.

Nerf is over complained. Drake is still fine for fleets and better then it was in small gangs.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#6 - 2012-12-07 04:47:23 UTC
Huh...it's not that big of a nerf for heavies its only a 10 km difference that I can tell if you want that 10 km back use rocket fuel rigs and flight rigs.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-07 06:20:33 UTC
Cher Lloyd wrote:
missiles rock now!!!


Just fixing your typo.
sand devil
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-07 09:30:44 UTC  |  Edited by: sand devil
Piugattuk wrote:
Huh...it's not that big of a nerf for heavies its only a 10 km difference that I can tell if you want that 10 km back use rocket fuel rigs and flight rigs.

Was 75+km on HML's - now its 58k, pretty much its ~25% cut\ -20km nerf
ps. but yeah, on overal HAM's and lights are buffed - not nerfed...
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-12-07 11:10:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
sand devil wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
Huh...it's not that big of a nerf for heavies its only a 10 km difference that I can tell if you want that 10 km back use rocket fuel rigs and flight rigs.

Was 75+km on HML's - now its 58k, pretty much its ~25% cut\ -20km nerf
ps. but yeah, on overal HAM's and lights are buffed - not nerfed...


Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters (missile velocity)
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition (missile flight time)

Learn to use them.
Gazzine TunakTun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-07 11:48:07 UTC
sand devil wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
Huh...it's not that big of a nerf for heavies its only a 10 km difference that I can tell if you want that 10 km back use rocket fuel rigs and flight rigs.

Was 75+km on HML's - now its 58k, pretty much its ~25% cut\ -20km nerf
ps. but yeah, on overal HAM's and lights are buffed - not nerfed...


I think same about T2 missiles.
Now it makes sense to have precisions in cargo, finaly they work on frigates like knife on butter.
Doing lvl4 in Drake (i.e. Worlds Collide) is still possible. Goes a bit slower and seems a bit more
interesting. Anyway "red crosses" for me are just to check changes - "what and how", learn them
and learn how to live with them.
Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#11 - 2012-12-07 13:37:14 UTC
1/10, 10/10 on the boobs though
Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#12 - 2012-12-07 14:34:16 UTC
Kalihira wrote:
10/10 on the boobs though



QFT

I used to have a clever sig but I lost it.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-12-07 18:45:41 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Caracal hasn't been nerfed either, it got two more BCU Slots and better fitting.


...and the kinetic only bonus was replaced with a 5% rate of fire bonus to go along with the missile velocity bonus makeing it a much more versatile ship.

Here's hoping the Drake gets the RoF and missile velocity bonus as has been suggested.
Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#14 - 2012-12-07 19:35:43 UTC
Klymer wrote:
Here's hoping the Drake gets the RoF and missile velocity bonus as has been suggested.

Yeah, just to make the HML nerf completely irrelevant...
Lord Calus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-07 20:07:46 UTC
ABLOO ABLOO ABLOOOOOOOOOOO.
Norris Packard
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-12-07 21:55:48 UTC
Bouh Revetoile wrote:
Klymer wrote:
Here's hoping the Drake gets the RoF and missile velocity bonus as has been suggested.

Yeah, just to make the HML nerf completely irrelevant...


The loss of resistance would hurt it still so it would be a fair trade off. Teir 2 BCs were always strange having half of them with tanking bonus and half of them being more ganky. Making all of them have more damage projection would make sense when they get around to balancing the BCs.
Ginger Barbarella
#17 - 2012-12-07 22:34:40 UTC
Cher Lloyd wrote:
missiles suck now!!!

ccp wont be happy until every ship and module in eve is the same!!!!!!!!


The only ship I *personally* think they're crap on now is the Tengu. Even my Cerb has retained it's HML goodness (not implying it hand any before, but you know what I mean).

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Risien Drogonne
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-12-08 03:17:58 UTC
Gazzine TunakTun wrote:

Doing lvl4 in Drake (i.e. Worlds Collide) is still possible. Goes a bit slower and seems a bit more
interesting. Anyway "red crosses" for me are just to check changes - "what and how", learn them
and learn how to live with them.


Drakes can still do the level 4s where everything in the entire area is now aggroing at warp-in?