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Cant Find a solid venture fit

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Ryric Cynema
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-12-06 17:16:27 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
[Venture, lol]

Damage Control II

Warp Scrambler II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II

75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin II x2


I want to see a gang or fleet of these trolling through null/low soon. Cool
Huorek
Blood Stripe Resistance
#22 - 2012-12-06 18:47:51 UTC
Currently running with this :

Damage Control II

Warp Scrambler II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Core Probe Launcher

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x2

The probe launcher gets swapped out for a salvager or a neut, but obviously if I'm pve salvaging or exploring I don't need the scram. I can drop it for a codebreaker etc if needed but for pve ratting but for general combat with no tackling needed what should I place there? I am torn between more tank or eccm since I seem to be easily jammed.

I also was curious as to how 'snipey' I could make it.... if I can can get 2 280mms to fit along with a sensor boost or such. But I would need to drop tackle or tank to get range (or both to get 'enough' range). Any ideas on making it a 'sniper'?
Eury Thorn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2012-12-06 20:37:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Eury Thorn
hs/ls miner

[High]
miner II
miner II
prototype cloaking device I

[med]
survey scanner II
1mn afterburner II
medium shield extender II

[low]
mining laser upgrade II

[rigs]
small polycarbon engine housing I
small low friction nozzle joints I
small core defense field extender I

[drones]
2x hobgoblins II

cap stable
1400m/s
2159 ehp

run into people warp to within xxx and cloak up
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
#24 - 2012-12-06 21:14:58 UTC
Verum Peto wrote:
None of this is what this topic was intended for....


you asked for fit.

you got fit.

you EVEN got discussion about what fit did and why.

what else do you want?
Alara IonStorm
#25 - 2012-12-06 21:25:33 UTC
Silas Shaw wrote:

what else do you want?

ORE I would imagine...
Wilhelm Riley
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-12-07 02:46:51 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:

ORE I would imagine...


Well what did he expect with an opening post that was just "Suggestions?".
Rezard
Fornax Chemica
Zaibatsu Mercantile
#27 - 2012-12-07 07:38:24 UTC
Here is my solid Venture Fitting:

[Venture, Rezard's Special]
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Miner II
Miner II
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Mining Drone II x2


You can change the drones for hobs maybe, but it's not meant to endure a lot in 0.0 and highsec rats take a loooot to break this tank so... I prefer the extra ORE wich is about 800m3 per minute :)
Teholl Beddict
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-12-07 11:10:53 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Verum Peto wrote:
None of this is what this topic was intended for....

Is it really, honestly that hard to fit it for basic mining? o.o

[Venture, mining]

Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Extender II
1MN Afterburner II
Survey Scanner II

Miner II
Miner II
Small Tractor Beam I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x2


OK So I'm new... been on Eve for about a month maybe, so I know very very little (aside from a lot of theroy crafting while at work)

I'm in the process of training up for mining at the moment (waiting on lvl4 at the mo). Done some training toward hauling (and have made myself about 15 mil from hauling things about the place)..so i can afford to eat a bit...and invest in some mining gear

Next project (now that the above is fit for the basics when i need it) - is mining. Was delighted with the new mining Frig option... and the abiove fit looks feasible to me (i.e. I might be able to jump in that ship..with that fit sometime very soon)

Couple of questions if I may.. the two Rigs below... haven't cmoe across these before

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

.... is there a reason for picking those two specifically? (i.e Thermal resisstance vs. some other type of resistabnce?) - sorry if thats a ridiculous question lol... if it is, then please assume I just don't know the right questions to be asking yet (not that I'm taking the mickey)


I was thinking about starting out in high sec...something like 0,7 down if I can get away with it (want to farm more profitable ore if possible) - ...then thinking about some ninja mining down the line in low sec

Any advice for starting out would be welcome!

Thanks all
Dar Saleem
VDD Logistics
#29 - 2012-12-07 11:23:21 UTC
Ryric Cynema wrote:

I want to see a gang or fleet of these trolling through null/low soon. Cool


PL and a few other null alliances have been flying them calling them dashercats

[Venture, DasherKat]
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Small Shield Extender II
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Damage Control II

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Hobgoblin II x2
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#30 - 2012-12-08 10:54:45 UTC
Teholl Beddict wrote:

Couple of questions if I may.. the two Rigs below... haven't cmoe across these before

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

.... is there a reason for picking those two specifically? (i.e Thermal resisstance vs. some other type of resistabnce?) - sorry if thats a ridiculous question lol... if it is, then please assume I just don't know the right questions to be asking yet (not that I'm taking the mickey)


Sometimes you just want to "balance out" your resists, so that your goal is to have your lowest shield resist (or your lowest armour resist - but always choose either to focus on shield or on armour tank!) as high as possible.

One reason for that is that you don't know what kinds of damage you're going to encounter. So you choose to omni-tank, instead of optimizing your tank against a specific flavour of incoming.

Another is if you're a veteran pilot, and you know full well what to optimize for, but you can't be arsed to shuffle modules around all the time. So you omni-tank. And if you have the badass skillz, then that'll be good enough.
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#31 - 2012-12-08 11:04:36 UTC
bubble trout wrote:
Bumrush wrote:
Yabba Addict wrote:
Can't really see the point of the eccm tbh, if you're mining in an anom they can just scan that instead


Wormhole and if you scan out the gas site you will not land on the ships then they run away

His fit is designed to gas in wormhole space



We have a winner!


Unfortunately, anyone with a brain will warp to the Ladar result at 100 km while dropping BMs. Then it's simple to bounce back and forth until you can warp straight to the Venture's can. You'd be better off dropping an ECCM for an ECM Burst, although that may cause horrific CPU problems.
Trog LoDite
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-12-08 19:56:59 UTC
Sabony wrote:
i'm a loser, i can't use any of those things, i'm a boob i mean noob here's my catastrophe:


This sounds trollish, but what the heck, I'll bite (lurking newbs may find this helpful). Anytime you can't fit a Tech 2 module, switch to the Tech 1 - Meta 4 version. If you can't afford that, then drop down to the Tech 1 - Meta 3 (and so on, etc etc).

Here's a general high-sec fit (no specific modules are named, so get the best ones you can buy/fit)...

[High Slots]
Miner
Miner
(Optional)

[Mid Slots]
Survey Scanner
Medium Shield Extender
(Optional - Small Shield Booster, Afterburner or some other defensive shield module)

[Low Slots]
Mining Laser Upgrade
(Optional - Damage Control if you can fit it)

2x Light Scout Drones (Hobgoblins probably preferred, but your mileage may vary)
Meklun Gorebelly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-12-09 18:27:15 UTC
Quote:
(Optional - Damage Control if you can fit it)

2x Light Scout Drones (Hobgoblins probably preferred, but your mileage may vary)


Okay, I'm not that new to EVE but just starting with mining.

So could someone answer me, why to use Damage control in the low slot and Hopgoblins as Drones instead of Minig Drones?
Pashino
Venice Academy
#34 - 2012-12-09 18:47:56 UTC
Meklun Gorebelly wrote:
Quote:
(Optional - Damage Control if you can fit it)

2x Light Scout Drones (Hobgoblins probably preferred, but your mileage may vary)


Okay, I'm not that new to EVE but just starting with mining.

So could someone answer me, why to use Damage control in the low slot and Hopgoblins as Drones instead of Minig Drones?



Protection against rats, mainly. Certainly newcomers are better off with a couple of scout drones than Miner I's in the drone bay.
Meklun Gorebelly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-12-09 19:20:38 UTC
Okay, Thanks for the Answer.

But when I want to do some Solo-Mining in 0.7 or 0.6, I would use a Fitting like the one from Rezard:

Quote:
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Miner II
Miner II
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Mining Drone II x2


Just with the difference, I would use a Core Probe Launcher for findig the "good rocks".

Search for it, Jump in, mine as fast and much as possible and jump out before someone noticed you. Or Jump out, WHEN someone noticed you.
Trog LoDite
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-12-10 16:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Trog LoDite
Meklun Gorebelly wrote:

Just with the difference, I would use a Core Probe Launcher for findig the "good rocks".

Search for it, Jump in, mine as fast and much as possible and jump out before someone noticed you. Or Jump out, WHEN someone noticed you.


I've been using the fit I posted to do low-sec mining runs. I've taken it into .2 space to grab Hemorphite (I just love that +2 stab bonus). In that case, I prefer to deal with the rats before I start mining. But, that's just my preference. There's nothing wrong with passive tanking rats if that's your preference.

However, without scanning rigs, I think most people will have trouble scanning down GRAV sites in this ship. With 4's in all scanning skills, I still have to get a probe strength of 70+ to lock on to them (I'll admit that it's possible that the issue is I'm just a crappy scanner though).

EDIT: Wrong site type. Doh!
Meklun Gorebelly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-12-10 18:53:00 UTC
Trog LoDite wrote:


EDIT: Wrong site type. Doh!



Which part of your Post you mean?



But I wil try both of it and maybe some more to find my personal style.
Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Empyrean Enterprise Conglomerate
#38 - 2012-12-11 21:44:13 UTC
Griznatch wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
what's the eccm for?



Makes you harder to probe out.


No it doesn't, that's what ECM is for, to interfere with the sensor performance of the attacker. ECCM is used by an attacker to burn through the ECM by improving his own sensor performance.

Electronic Counter measure
Electronic Counter-Counter measure
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#39 - 2012-12-11 21:49:33 UTC
Arcaus Rotrau Romali wrote:
Griznatch wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
what's the eccm for?



Makes you harder to probe out.


No it doesn't, that's what ECM is for, to interfere with the sensor performance of the attacker. ECCM is used by an attacker to burn through the ECM by improving his own sensor performance.

Electronic Counter measure
Electronic Counter-Counter measure


In the real world, yeah.

In EVE, ECCM boosts your sensor strength, which somehow effects someone else's ability to scan you down. The formula is your signature radius divided by your sensor strength. The closer you get to 1, the better. I know, it doesn't really make sense.

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."

Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Empyrean Enterprise Conglomerate
#40 - 2012-12-11 21:58:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Really? Did not know that, it is definitely counter-intuitive.

Well, umm ... never mind me then, carry on


I just read the Evelopedia entry, fwiw because I know it's not up to date, but it looks to me like it follows real world application.
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