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Ladar Site in C5 How Hard?

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TheSlaveMaster
GAARD Tactics
#1 - 2012-12-06 23:58:25 UTC
o/ How hard or what kind of ships needed to take down the 4 BS in Instrumental Core or Vital Core Ladar? Can 2 well tanked shield remote drakes tank it? (1500dps omni tank)
Phaderift
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2012-12-07 00:20:11 UTC
You'll get neuted out. there are ways to run it with single ships but you suggested plan will end up with you dead. best bet is either to use 2 cap chained logi + 1-2 dps boats or 4RR tengu.
TheSlaveMaster
GAARD Tactics
#3 - 2012-12-07 00:43:14 UTC
oh so they used neuts? Thanks for info, how much dps would i at least need to get the bs down then?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-12-07 00:53:10 UTC
warp a dread to zero, 1 siege cycle.

2 guards + 2 prots works well.
3-4 RR tengus also work.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#5 - 2012-12-07 01:41:34 UTC
I used to clear them with carrier + loki (dread blaps them a lot quicker but if it sieges its there the whole siege cycle anyhow) - well fit carrier + loki clears them inside 5 minutes.

Theres no one way to do them but dread is the fastest to get them out the way. Pair of guardians and a vindicator works well with skirmish links to.
AP John
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-07 08:30:58 UTC
If you feel lucky you can try with 1 full ECM fit Tengu/Scorpion + DPS ships.. but if even one of those ECM cycles fails.. you dead.. they hate ECM and it will be primary as soon as you land, not even a scorp can handle the incoming DPS for more then 2 volleys.

best is 2 Guards + 2 DPS ships ( even with 2x proteus it will take you over 10 min to clear it, they have a bad habit of kitting in all directions)
TheSlaveMaster
GAARD Tactics
#7 - 2012-12-07 08:45:59 UTC
Think i will use my revelation then. thanks! :)
chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#8 - 2012-12-07 10:28:59 UTC
Disco. That is all.
Utsen Dari
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-12-07 13:48:59 UTC
1x 100mn tengu orbiting at range can do it
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#10 - 2012-12-07 14:16:00 UTC
TheSlaveMaster wrote:
Think i will use my revelation then. thanks! :)


Lossmail incoming.
RingRaith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-12-07 15:00:34 UTC
TheSlaveMaster wrote:
oh so they used neuts? Thanks for info, how much dps would i at least need to get the bs down then?


they will cap you out in one or two cycles. They neut very very hard and at a long range too.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#12 - 2012-12-07 15:12:46 UTC
Utsen Dari wrote:
1x 100mn tengu orbiting at range can do it


Yeah - one of our guys used to use 2 tengus with bounces and kiting their neut/web/scram range and never lost a tengu - bit too ballsy for my tastes tho.

I don't reccomend trying the ecm approach someone I know tried 3 or 4 remote repping scorpions and warped them out in structure with only one BS dead.

If your in a C5/6 pulsar then a pimpish rattlesnake can do it solo but it takes about 15 minutes.
Jalabaster
Aether Ventures
#13 - 2012-12-24 19:26:00 UTC
I would say the most common fleet composition is 3x rr tengus for vitals, and 4x rr tengus for instrumentals.

There are of course other ways, but this is probably the most common.

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Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-12-25 03:32:37 UTC
Ninja, that is all.
Setsune Rin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-12-27 06:44:46 UTC
a battleship and two logi is what we usually use, or we just ignore them and suck out the big cloud...
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#16 - 2012-12-28 04:54:18 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
warp a dread to zero, 1 siege cycle.

2 guards + 2 prots works well.
3-4 RR tengus also work.


Probably 4 tengus, 3 is a bit too close.

Also, make sure the tengus are as passive fit as possible otherwise they will cap out.

Ignore all the other posts in this thread or you will end up losing ships, the above 3 ways are the best.
TomyLobo
U2EZ
#17 - 2012-12-28 20:10:15 UTC
Ninja that ish!! I have my ways but it'll cost you.
QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
#18 - 2012-12-29 02:18:32 UTC
Believe it or not, but I actually dual box vitals and instrumentals in ventures.
Omen Nihilo
Omen Holdings
#19 - 2012-12-29 04:07:05 UTC
I'm ready to believe pretty much anything Hard Knocks guys say... Blink