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[Proposal] The jukebox is gone? We want it back!

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Armand Cinnabon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-04 22:10:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Armand Cinnabon
CCP What have you done? Taking away a good thing and not giving us the option for it once you implement your half-working dynamic sound system!

What I propose is that you bring back the jukebox but also let location-based music be an option.

I cannot live without having my Below the Asteroids or my Surplus of Rare Artifacts ready to play at a moment's notice without alt tabbing into CCP's Soundcloud then coming back to the game seeing I'm in half armor because I had to leave the game to change the music.

A fellow player has made a petition for CCP, signing it will show our strength.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ccp-corp-restore-jukebox-and-custom-playlists-in-eve-online

Regards,
Cinnabon.
Su Rouge
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-12-04 22:54:55 UTC
Same here!! It sucks!

CCP please bring the Jukebox back, would you?
Sheynan
Lighting the blight
#3 - 2012-12-04 22:55:43 UTC
http://soundcloud.com/ccpgames

here it is, have fun.
Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#4 - 2012-12-05 12:35:46 UTC
+1

Having an external fix for something that wasn't broken in the first place is rather pointless
Jamir Von Lietuva
Nameless Minions
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#5 - 2012-12-05 13:45:09 UTC
I second this, give us back the jukebox!
saladfinger
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-05 14:25:32 UTC
the wrath of retribution mutilated my beloved jukebox... what a sad day! where is my nouvelle rouvenor hero to save my day?

seriously though, i read torfifrans' dev blog and i don't like the external solution at all. simple as that.

Please just reimplement it. Cool
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-05 15:45:53 UTC
Yes CCP please please devote more of those precious developer hours to reimplementing and maintaining code that has nothing to do with the actual product you're selling.

Also, I demand that my refrigerator also preheat my oven.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Raizen Kusanagi
ISBE Mining and Mayhem
#8 - 2012-12-05 15:46:28 UTC
I also miss my beloved Jukebox! Please, CCP. Bring it back or at least tell us why it was taken away.
saladfinger
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-05 17:36:04 UTC  |  Edited by: saladfinger
De'Veldrin wrote:
Yes CCP please please devote more of those precious developer hours to reimplementing and maintaining code that has nothing to do with the actual product you're selling.

Also, I demand that my refrigerator also preheat my oven.


Ingame sound has nothing to do with "the game"?.... oh well, you are probably just an armor triage pilot.

I forgive you, poor sinner.
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-05 18:12:31 UTC
I like not having to alt tab out to change the music tracks. I like being able to pick a track to play whenever I want while at the same time hearing cool event music when I enter a plex or am doing a mission. Having a jukebox is just damn convenient like the stupid pointless web browser I love.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-12-05 19:34:24 UTC
saladfinger wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Yes CCP please please devote more of those precious developer hours to reimplementing and maintaining code that has nothing to do with the actual product you're selling.

Also, I demand that my refrigerator also preheat my oven.


Ingame sound has nothing to do with "the game"?.... oh well, you are probably just an armor triage pilot.

I forgive you, poor sinner.


Oddly my game still has in-game sound without the jukebox. Maybe your client is broken.
And this was not a surprise, folks. They only announced this a couple of weeks ago

Remember, reading is fundamental. If you choose not to be informed, that is not CCP's problem.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
saladfinger
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-05 20:06:06 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
saladfinger wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Yes CCP please please devote more of those precious developer hours to reimplementing and maintaining code that has nothing to do with the actual product you're selling.

Also, I demand that my refrigerator also preheat my oven.


Ingame sound has nothing to do with "the game"?.... oh well, you are probably just an armor triage pilot.

I forgive you, poor sinner.


Oddly my game still has in-game sound without the jukebox. Maybe your client is broken.
And this was not a surprise, folks. They only announced this a couple of weeks ago

Remember, reading is fundamental. If you choose not to be informed, that is not CCP's problem.


yeah well reading is fundamental? then surely you have noticed that i mentioned torfifrans/ team klangs dev blog. smartass... just because you don't care about eve's music doesn't mean nobody does.

Now that the troll is fed, onwards to another matter.
If the jukebox doesn't return, it would be nice if you could not only put the tracks on soundcloud but also enabling them for download. so we can integrate them into our own playlists.

cheers
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-12-06 03:18:53 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
saladfinger wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Yes CCP please please devote more of those precious developer hours to reimplementing and maintaining code that has nothing to do with the actual product you're selling.

Also, I demand that my refrigerator also preheat my oven.


Ingame sound has nothing to do with "the game"?.... oh well, you are probably just an armor triage pilot.

I forgive you, poor sinner.


Oddly my game still has in-game sound without the jukebox. Maybe your client is broken.
And this was not a surprise, folks. They only announced this a couple of weeks ago

Remember, reading is fundamental. If you choose not to be informed, that is not CCP's problem.


Its in some ways a handy feature to allow personal playlists into the game, not many other games offer that without serious modding. Though... ccp picking playlists based on location and situation seems to add more atmosphere, and immersion.

Maintaining a MP3 player also takes resources that could be used in other places.

From the list of changes, sounds like they adding a heck load more of sound related stuff, so its certainly not like they abandoning it.
Corian Teranos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-06 08:54:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Corian Teranos
I have to support this the jukebox made it easy to music play without having to alt tab in and out of the game it also added a convenient interface for pausing the music. as for claiming that it takes resources to maintain a jukebox that is bullshit it probably took more time for the developers to REMOVE the code than it would have to leave it in. and what is there to maintain about an mp3 function ?? last time i checked mp3 technology is was fairly simple and efficient it is yet another example of developers thinking they know best without actually thinking.
Vasp en Thielles
Blue Space Manufacturing N Research
#15 - 2012-12-06 11:39:24 UTC
Red glowing dust, Red glowing dust, i want the jukebox back. Enough is enough.. Shocked i loved the option 2 choose what song i wanted. You took my baby away from me.. why... whyyyy?

Anyway you got my vote 2 save the Jukebox.

Warm regards
RealEchnaton
SonnenFeuer
#16 - 2012-12-06 14:19:58 UTC
oh no........

after the patch i search my top eve tool , the jukebox.

it's gone.. the help channel told me, ccp have remove it, wilfully and knowingly !

In the patchnotes i red

Quote:
The jukebox has been removed and replaced with a location-aware music system.
CryCryCryCry


I cry my pain in the eve-universe. What do you have done ..... how can i hear my favorite song "below the asterdoids" ?

stay near the asteroids? alt-tab junkie?


On no, this is the worst thing you have done CCP!

why ? why? WHY?????????
RealEchnaton
SonnenFeuer
#17 - 2012-12-06 14:26:41 UTC
saladfinger wrote:


yeah well reading is fundamental? then surely you have noticed that i mentioned torfifrans/ team klangs dev blog. smartass... just because you don't care about eve's music doesn't mean nobody does.

Now that the troll is fed, onwards to another matter.
If the jukebox doesn't return, it would be nice if you could not only put the tracks on soundcloud but also enabling them for download. so we can integrate them into our own playlists.

cheers




i don't know , if the subjectwriter is a troll, but i 'am not. I mean it serious.

If you say nobody cares about eve's music , it is arrogant. Perhaps i had a chance to red it on the devblog, but what have i done in this situation ? starting a petition ? collection signes? Perhaps the most people don't use it, i don't know,
but it was important for me and my user experience in playing eve. really.

alttabbing is not the same or listen in browser..

realechnaton
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#18 - 2012-12-06 21:33:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
******* signed. We didn't fight to get this ***** in the first place to let them just take it away on a whim. 'Context Driven Soundscape'? **** that. I'm sorry, but some of us play this game fullscreen, and the whole reason that we got it in the first place was so we didn't have to be assed with alt tabbing.

Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:

Maintaining a MP3 player also takes resources that could be used in other places.


Except they're not using it in other places, they're using it to create 'context driven music'. Like I want it hear the same track or two five thousand times while I camp or mine or whatever the **** I'm doing.
De Monik
Colliding Concepts
#19 - 2012-12-06 22:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: De Monik
Don't fix what isn't Broken.

The jukeBpx is what keeps me going with my own music, listening to EvE music isn't what i want to hear over and over and over again.. pluse Tabing isn't something i like to do between screens, that in it self takes up your . even if it is just for a few seconds.

resources?
Whats even more funny is you leave your Launcher Program running on the screen. THAT takes up resources . something i don't care to have running when i can just log into EvE gate and get what i'm looking for.

    De Monik  ~[u]*End Of Line[/u]*~
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#20 - 2012-12-07 01:45:29 UTC
So location driven sounds and music can make a good game even better. That said, I would support bringing the Jukebox back IF keeping location driven sounds and music remained as an option.

Issler
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