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Beiny Lemmont
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-05 23:04:23 UTC
first : about new "AI" its not AI but: .. I AAAAAA, I AAAAAAA or DRONESHOLOCAUST

Why ?
Result is simple CCP damaged all players around. I bougt one day before this patch finaly raven navy to run lev 4 misions after half year of skilling. Now I cant run level 4 missions because I DONT HAVE DRONES ! all my drones are killed in few seconds imediately after putting out..
Without drones Im totaly loosed because I cant aply dmg by shooting cruise missiles on frigates or destroyers sou im not able to continue in mission (frustrate).
of course this is not only problem of raven navy ..

so what to say ? CCP damaged all players around / next nonsens of CCP

"thanks CCP",, realy good strategy how to brown players off ...
Kobal81
HR..
#2 - 2012-12-05 23:09:32 UTC
Lazers FTW....

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit"
Anonymous Fighter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-12-05 23:14:37 UTC
Tengu missile nerf isn't looking that bad compared to the drone massacre that has been going on.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-12-05 23:14:38 UTC
Lasers don't help....
Irya Boone
The Scope
#5 - 2012-12-05 23:15:26 UTC
they wanted to butthurt the Bots by doing this ... but they just forget they could Just remove the aggressive Mode of drone== no more AFK and people Who actually play the game could still play with their drone style life.

No Go skill Lazers or missiles...

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-05 23:16:54 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Lasers don't help....

Have fun with TDs if you do.....

Ugh, meant to edit not quote.
Sakaron Hefdover
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-05 23:21:59 UTC
I thought the raven had two turret slots? If they are still there you could stick two med rails or small rails.

Only problem would be the elite rats, But you could kill everything else first or fit a webber or target painter. Only a mid slot taken up.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#8 - 2012-12-05 23:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
Here's the secret, do not deploy drones until frig npc's are on top of you this way you can recall them as soon as they are aggroed.
After doing many missions since I wrote earlier, npc's seem to leave drones alone after 2 mins into the mission and all aggro is on you, if you deploy as soon as npc aggro your drones will get aggro.

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Romvex
TURN LEFT
#9 - 2012-12-05 23:33:00 UTC
Sakaron Hefdover wrote:
I thought the raven had two turret slots? If they are still there you could stick two med rails or small rails.

Only problem would be the elite rats, But you could kill everything else first or fit a webber or target painter. Only a mid slot taken up.


two undersized turrets? sobad
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#10 - 2012-12-05 23:35:47 UTC
I asked my sister if she had tried some missions after the patch. She had, with her Domi. I asked her how many drones she lost due to the new AI that switches aggro to the drones.

"There is a new AI that switches aggro to the drones?"

Apparently is such a small effect she did not notice.

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Codie Dunier
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-12-05 23:38:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Codie Dunier
Beiny Lemmont wrote:
first : about new "AI" its not AI but: .. I AAAAAA, I AAAAAAA or DRONESHOLOCAUST

Why ?
Result is simple CCP damaged all players around. I bougt one day before this patch finaly raven navy to run lev 4 misions after half year of skilling. Now I cant run level 4 missions because I DONT HAVE DRONES ! all my drones are killed in few seconds imediately after putting out..
Without drones Im totaly loosed because I cant aply dmg by shooting cruise missiles on frigates or destroyers sou im not able to continue in mission (frustrate).
of course this is not only problem of raven navy ..

so what to say ? CCP damaged all players around / next nonsens of CCP

"thanks CCP",, realy good strategy how to brown players off ...

Okay, so your drones die fast. I've already adapted to the situation by simply fitting two Target Painters and a bunch of Rigor-rigs on my Mission-ship. Frigates die fast enough with that. Stop whining, start adapting, make ISK. It costs maybe 15 million ISK to adapt to the situation, and yet you'd rather complain to CCP because they make it harder for you to make lots of ISK in no time? You'll have more success just adapting, honestly.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#12 - 2012-12-05 23:41:15 UTC
Lol... think it's bad with your Navy Raven, try it with an Dominix, or even a Rattlesnake, where most of their DPS come from drones. Blink It could be worse OP.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#13 - 2012-12-05 23:42:59 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I asked my sister if she had tried some missions after the patch. She had, with her Domi. I asked her how many drones she lost due to the new AI that switches aggro to the drones.

"There is a new AI that switches aggro to the drones?"

Apparently is such a small effect she did not notice.


The domi has up to 50% more drone hitpoints, and the drones do more damage, so the frigates get killed faster. I found cruisers and battleships largely ignore drones, even sentries. Also domi pilots more likely to have trained drone durability. I did when I tried wormholes.

If the mission is snipable then the sentries will cut the frigates down before they can reach, so some missions you won't notice any changes for.

Mostly what is getting people in trouble is the accidental changes that have caused more full stage aggros. Which I like, but CCP will probably wind that back.
Adeleda Adoudel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-12-06 00:36:54 UTC
Pve. Is hard Sad
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#15 - 2012-12-06 00:41:38 UTC
Beiny Lemmont wrote:
killed in few seconds imediately after putting out..


lol
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#16 - 2012-12-06 01:02:43 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Beiny Lemmont wrote:
killed in few seconds imediately after putting out..

lol

Oh, a nice catch.

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Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-06 01:47:26 UTC
Cheating way: launch, drone aggro, pull in, launch, no aggro.
I'm not a little ***** way: Snipe frigs from range and when they are in close then send out the drones, you can pull the lil bastards in and out almost instantly.

I lied :o
ashley Eoner
#18 - 2012-12-06 02:46:26 UTC
Drew Solaert wrote:
Cheating way: launch, drone aggro, pull in, launch, no aggro.
I'm not a little ***** way: Snipe frigs from range and when they are in close then send out the drones, you can pull the lil bastards in and out almost instantly.
You're exploiting a bug that will be fixed sometime.

CCP DEV FoxFour
Quote:

While we consider the fact that the AI will only shoot your first flight of drones (this is based on specific criteria such as sig radius) and not a second wave to be a defect, we are not publishing the fix with Retribution.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2158421#post2158421
YuuKnow
The Scope
#19 - 2012-12-06 02:50:05 UTC
Meh. Adapt.

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Whisperen
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2012-12-06 02:55:42 UTC
Have one of your noobie corpmates fly in one of the new logi frigates follow your drones and rep them. Teamwork.
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