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CCP... Why Why Why??
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SlightlyMad
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-05 21:45:24 UTC
You

R.I.P

Pve
hehehehehe Chancel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-12-05 22:53:55 UTC
Missioning will be dearly missed.
Akuma Tsukai
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-12-05 23:42:45 UTC
hehe yeah :) It was the most devious coup de grace i ever saw i my life :) Good thing they havent changed WHs i can stil make some iskies for all the ships i loose.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-06 01:36:32 UTC
eve is dying

I should buy an Ishtar.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#5 - 2012-12-06 01:42:00 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
eve is dying

LOL Daniel you shouldn't worry, you didnt have plans after the Mayan callander ends anyways, right?

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-06 01:48:24 UTC
Akuma Tsukai wrote:
hehe yeah :) It was the most devious coup de grace i ever saw i my life :) Good thing they havent changed WHs i can stil make some iskies for all the ships i loose.


I hear loctite is pretty effective.
Speedy 11
Corporation 11
#7 - 2012-12-06 13:11:53 UTC
I´ts time to say good bye EVE

or

or the CCP changes the AI
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-12-06 13:16:17 UTC
Speedy 11 wrote:
I´ts time to say good bye EVE

or

or the CCP changes the AI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w

I should buy an Ishtar.
Speedy 11
Corporation 11
#9 - 2012-12-06 13:19:49 UTC
exactly !!!
Sandy Claws
Scissorhands Incorperated
#10 - 2012-12-06 23:15:52 UTC
Yep this NPC AI change killed PvE.

In Vengeance mission , you warp in all the Rats aggro you and they are less than 20 km away some 30 ships.
Impossible to tank solo, lucky I got my Apoc Navy out.

Its pretty sad this changes totally ruined solo PvE not good at all ....

Really bad change this is.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-12-07 00:39:34 UTC
if only there were hundreds of other missions, not only WC and vengeance....

I should buy an Ishtar.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-07 01:09:46 UTC
omnomnom tears!!!

on topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
M'yara Taredi
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-12-07 05:16:23 UTC
Sandy Claws wrote:
Yep this NPC AI change killed PvE.

In Vengeance mission , you warp in all the Rats aggro you and they are less than 20 km away some 30 ships.
Impossible to tank solo, lucky I got my Apoc Navy out.

Its pretty sad this changes totally ruined solo PvE not good at all ....

Really bad change this is.



Man, too bad you cant run missions in fleets.
Nicolai Xperte
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-12-07 07:07:50 UTC
I don't know how you guys did Vengenance w/o pulling whole pocket that's the best way to do it, until now all drones go *poof* and poor CNR can't kill the scram frigs.

I don't always bring out my Absolution.

But when I do it makes the Blue's rage, lol.
Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
#15 - 2012-12-07 07:16:31 UTC
M'yara Taredi wrote:
Sandy Claws wrote:
Yep this NPC AI change killed PvE.

In Vengeance mission , you warp in all the Rats aggro you and they are less than 20 km away some 30 ships.
Impossible to tank solo, lucky I got my Apoc Navy out.

Its pretty sad this changes totally ruined solo PvE not good at all ....

Really bad change this is.



Man, too bad you cant run missions in fleets.


What's the point in running missions with crappy rewards in fleets, when you can take that fleet and do Incursions for much greater rewards?

Missions were supposed to be soloable and the rewards are adjusted for that. They just aren't worth the trouble to put together a fleet.
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#16 - 2012-12-07 10:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
Sandy Claws wrote:
Yep this NPC AI change killed PvE.

In Vengeance mission , you warp in all the Rats aggro you and they are less than 20 km away some 30 ships.
Impossible to tank solo, lucky I got my Apoc Navy out.

Its pretty sad this changes totally ruined solo PvE not good at all ....

Really bad change this is.

I agree.
CCP should make mission npc AI the way it was before, because this is just impossible to do now.
Josefine Etrange
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-07 14:50:27 UTC
hehehehehe Chancel wrote:
Missioning will be clearly not missed.


fixed your typo
Mr Pragmatic
#18 - 2012-12-07 15:01:16 UTC
Working as intended.

The whiny bitter vocal minority got their way.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#19 - 2012-12-07 18:19:16 UTC
Sandy Claws wrote:
Yep this NPC AI change killed PvE.

In Vengeance mission , you warp in all the Rats aggro you and they are less than 20 km away some 30 ships.
Impossible to tank solo, lucky I got my Apoc Navy out.

Its pretty sad this changes totally ruined solo PvE not good at all ....

Really bad change this is.

If you think it ruined solo PVE, try running missions in a fleet with a logi. As soon as the reps land ALL agro switches to the logi and they go pop. It is not possible to tank a logi enough to survive and rep in any mission where they are actually needed. only option now is to spider tank BS's. Logi are useless now in missions. it makes no sense as this A.I. is supposed to be based on the same A.I. as sleepers and incursions, but you don't have this problem in incursions.
Ikshuki
Awoken Disintegration Fleet
#20 - 2012-12-08 07:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikshuki
So, let's get this straight, they nerfed mission loot to the point where the salvaging career vhas been deemed obsolete, they increase damage done by mission rats, which that part needed to be done, L4s shouldn't be so easy to omni tank, then they now have it where if you're a droneboat your pirate and faction drone Battleship is now useless in L4s, because apparently as soon as you attack an npc for 1 second they change aggro to the drones, now you have high risk to just attack any mission rat since you now aggro the whole room no matter what you attack, wtf ccp? the issue is, they made L4s undoable solo yet they won't let you do them in fleets, maybe we should have another look at the expansion's name in a new perspective, because this is definitely someone's hate and revenge on both missions and drone boats altogether, why would a noob go from noob ship to straight to 10 man fleets in incursions that mostly happens in null and low sec, where noobs are A broke, and B not skilled enough. this is a war they just started, this is officially a new incarna, in my book an mmo that kills PvE is a dead mmo no matter how you design it, pve is a wealth generator so you can afford to pvp in null
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