Warfare & Tactics

@OP

I can see the logic in your post, but since 95% of plex runners don't want to fight in the first place I think it's a change for the better.

I like this change because Im after fights, not LP. At least so far its only good.

Cearain you are a habitual whiner. The only reason they have the SINGLE rat in the plex is to make sure the ships entering the plex have weapons. Otherrwise they are exactly like what you have proposed for years - no rats. So, you got what you wanted and are still whining endlessly.

You are the one whining about there being a single rat. Not me. I'm glad for that change.

I am making the point that you and ccp seem to miss: You can change the rats however you like, but if there is no pvp, you are still just farming.

The problem is they have not done anything to make it more likely you will get pvp when you are plexing.

But I know you don't see this as a problem since you like to have your alts run defensive plexes when local is clear. To each their own. Just because I don't agree with your view that, that is good gameplay doesn't mean I am whining.

There is of course the fix that I proposed in my signature for several years, and hans said he would support. Appearantly ccp decided their time would be better spent futzing with npcs and lp payouts instead of making the game about pvp.

I undock plenty and go "roaming" for fights. It is very hit or miss as to whether I will stumble upon them.

Well i sort of like cearain's idea about a notification system, but i had posted my own version of it in some old post laying around here.

Basically you take the faction warfare map, and modify the color/shape code to the systems that it has now.

Instead of showing systems that are contested or vulnerable, it shows the systems that have enemies in their plexes.

Instead of the concentric rings around the contested systems as it is now, color or shape code them to let you know which type of plexes are occupied.

That way you know where to get a fight, without knowing too much.

The biggest problem i had with your suggestion Cearain, is that if I know you just entered a medium plex in your coercer, I'm coming in a ship fit to kill you, and 10 other people are likely independently making the same decision.

Consistenly having a train run on you by people that are fit to kill you wouldn't be much fun.

Back on topic, the plex button is getting old already. People just aren't coming in like they used to.

Rreally? I'm curious to know how many occupied plexes have you jumped into and how it worked out.

I avoid occupied ones unless I/we have numbers for reasons stated in the OP.

It is not a fix if you decide to stay docked.

TBH the button change has changed absolutly nothing in how I decide to warp into a plex or not.

I always assuem that whoever is in the plex is at there optimal range for tackle/dps/ewar/whatever. That is the advantage they get by being there first and me warping in second is my choice weather to engage or not.

If you are not willing to engage then bugger off and go running missions or some crap like that!

As for tactics.....the change to the button changes nothing! if i'm in a kitey setup I need range asap and as I have already assumed they'll be at their optimal then I plan accordingly to try and minimise the chance of being caught by a brawler (not going into how I do this - figure it out!) or try to catch a kitey if i'm in a brawler setup.

It does give the brawlers a bit more time to setup on the warping if they are actively defending it. But then again any half witted player will watch dscan and move as soon as wt's show up. I have never not been able to set myself up in a AB'ing brawler before.

Seriously all this changes is the ease of catching a plexer who is only half paying attention to dscan......get over it and stop overthinking the issue.

Edit: The only real change in the plex's is the silly speed of the npc's now......

I undersatnd what he is saying.....basically it is folly to enter an occupied plex! Re-read my post I always assume a camp in an occupied plex....it changes nothing.

Guess what?

What a load of crap!

I suppose I should stop flying rifters now or run away from the rebalanced cruisers in my frigs.....yeah right like that is going to happen!

Seriously people need to stop bitching and whining so much a go out and fight......all the 'perfect world' scenarios that are argued about here on the forums are generally a load of tosh and very rarely happen.

Here's a novel Idea.....go out anf find out about if first rather than complaining about it..........then........figure out a counter to it and BBQ them all over the place.

The history of EVE is one of new tactics -> counter tactics -> new counter tactics.......

This is nothing different.

Adapt or die!

If it actually panned out in game like most of the posts in the forum would have you believe then eve would die a very quick death.

I always assume worst case scenarios when i go into a fight but I always bet on chance and stupidity of my opponent. Some times that pays off and I get a kill that I 'shouldn't' be able to or I have a tough fight and barely scrape through or I get owned because I have the wrong ship/fit/tactics and the other pilot is competant.....