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Dev blog: Help us capture a day of life in New Eden and store for eternity!

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jason hill
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-12-03 20:24:07 UTC
Claire Raynor wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
will you accept a nudist piece?...

Sure.

Not for this exhibition, though.


Nice :P. Honest. Concise. Plain Language.




arnt u dead bro ! Big smile
CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#42 - 2012-12-03 21:12:01 UTC
There is a thread on reddit on the same topic, I wrote a reply there to this question:

It would be best to have the ingame music and other music turned off, since many videos may be shown together.

Having your comms would be great, since we're trying to communicate the fact that EVE is massively social science fiction simulator, where the world and its story is mostly written by its players.

In general, short, unedited clips would be better, since we're trying to portray what actually happened from the player's point of view. However, if you have great video editing and production skills and experience with making ingame videos and using advanced camera moves, then by all means go for it, just be ready to have your "baby" chopped up on the editing board, as it is mixed or placed side by side to other videos, player made and CCP made.

Thanks!
Sylvous
Bigger than Jesus
#43 - 2012-12-03 23:05:37 UTC
Awesome, this is the perfect chance for some of us low sec guys in Molden heath to show some of the awesome frigate fights that happen in Heild due to the presence of the 2/10 complex there...
Oh wait...

nvm
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-12-03 23:19:28 UTC
um what about the HUD, you want it on? off?

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
#45 - 2012-12-03 23:49:40 UTC
Quote:
Evil corporate legal jargon:

By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit.


They even forfeit the copyright... wow. Youtube hosting the **** doesn't even do that. Hell in most of the world this isn't binding at all. Hell a corporation without exhaustive copyright handling legalese in the employment contract often doesn't have the power to take the copyright as much as they want.

Furthermore you are trapped in an authenticity disaster. If sending a link is all it takes for you to take the copyright. What if I were to send in Farjung's videos. Are they urs now?
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#46 - 2012-12-04 00:02:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
kyrieee wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
We did consider it, but being that the exhibit is up for 11 months, and we couldn't ensure uptime ( expansions, patches and other downtime ) we opted for a perfectly pre-cooked exhibit that will aim to show the metrics you list, but for that date, rather than in real time.


It's only a temporary exhibit? I got the impression it was permanent

The exhibit is temporary, for 11 months, but EVE is being acquired into the permanent collection. Things like the original box, running code etc, will be stored in some underground vault deep below Manhattan.


EVE will survive 21.12.2012 Attention good job! Some plants seeds are safe in some underground place in Norway, and now this, CCP are smartP

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#47 - 2012-12-04 00:20:39 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
um what about the HUD, you want it on? off?

On, please, so that people can see that it´s a person playing.
CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#48 - 2012-12-04 00:22:16 UTC
Jason Edwards wrote:
Quote:
Evil corporate legal jargon:

By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit.


They even forfeit the copyright... wow. Youtube hosting the **** doesn't even do that. Hell in most of the world this isn't binding at all. Hell a corporation without exhaustive copyright handling legalese in the employment contract often doesn't have the power to take the copyright as much as they want.

Furthermore you are trapped in an authenticity disaster. If sending a link is all it takes for you to take the copyright. What if I were to send in Farjung's videos. Are they urs now?

Well, I said it was evil.

Basically what it means is that you are agreeing that we can use the video in our video.
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-12-04 03:49:57 UTC
Use a little chuck of that trailer with the angry Merlin pilot ,
( with the shitload of icons / sandbox thingy ) , kind of puts Eve really compressed.

Use market charts / TS overlays ( combat comms )

Talk to dotlan to ask if you can use there influence map, ( SOV ) ?
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#50 - 2012-12-04 04:01:27 UTC
Jason Edwards wrote:
Quote:
Evil corporate legal jargon:

By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit.


They even forfeit the copyright... wow. Youtube hosting the **** doesn't even do that. Hell in most of the world this isn't binding at all. Hell a corporation without exhaustive copyright handling legalese in the employment contract often doesn't have the power to take the copyright as much as they want.

Furthermore you are trapped in an authenticity disaster. If sending a link is all it takes for you to take the copyright. What if I were to send in Farjung's videos. Are they urs now?


CCP would probably act as if they owned those videos, until the true creators contacted them about it. Then most likely CCP or the local police could contact you about, fraud. So might not be so wise to do.

You can always turn in a fake check to the bank to get real money from it. But perhaps not always the best idea.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-12-04 07:10:04 UTC
the made the game they own the footage :P

hell they own us, like our characters.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

pussnheels
Viziam
#52 - 2012-12-04 08:50:55 UTC
uumm why not provide them with a live feed that changes system/ place every 2 minutes and can be directed to a event that is happening at that time

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Shalia Ripper
#53 - 2012-12-04 08:57:28 UTC
Note to self - Record ship spinning.

Sig blah blah blah blah

Renan Ruivo
Hengetools Consumer Products S.A.
#54 - 2012-12-04 09:45:27 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
More games are to follow, it‘s easy to start asking „why isn‘t game X there?“. But hey, they listed EVE Online, so that‘s good enough for us!


They also listed The Sims.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#55 - 2012-12-04 09:48:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Niko Lorenzio
Oops... posted on wrong thread. Delete please.

The CSM XI Election are now open until March 25th, 2016. Consider Niko Lorenzio for CSM XI.

CSM matters, your voice matters, your vote matters!

Foo Kugai
Quasi-Farcical Troupe
#56 - 2012-12-04 10:09:08 UTC
I'm really not trying to be a troll but..

"Rather than having a PC simply running EVE somewhere in the corner with a keyboard and mouse and risk the untrained audience spending their time angrily trying to open the door in the captain‘s quarters or being serial suicide ganked in Jita"

Doesn't this say something about the game that deserves being looked into? I mean, as a game company, if you acknowledge that these are in fact negative aspects of the game experience, shouldn't there be some internal commitment to correct them?

Foo
Sayf ulMulk
Royal Starlancers
#57 - 2012-12-04 10:37:24 UTC
I hope you dont plan to use it as some sort of advertisment becouse the second someone logs in to the game he will be feeling betrayed. Especialy when most of the time newbie will have to spend mining since they dont know anythink about ship fitting so they die in misisons constantly or buying new ships since griefer flipped his cans in training systems and he got poped. No form of advertisment will help when new player feels the game is diametricaly different then presented advertisment version of the "usual day".
CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#58 - 2012-12-04 12:12:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP t0rfifrans
Foo Kugai wrote:
I'm really not trying to be a troll but..

"Rather than having a PC simply running EVE somewhere in the corner with a keyboard and mouse and risk the untrained audience spending their time angrily trying to open the door in the captain‘s quarters or being serial suicide ganked in Jita"

Doesn't this say something about the game that deserves being looked into? I mean, as a game company, if you acknowledge that these are in fact negative aspects of the game experience, shouldn't there be some internal commitment to correct them?

Foo

Well, they have the same challenge with Dwarf Fortress. Now that's a game even more hard to get into. It should we noted, we have a full team dedicated to improving the usability and player experience, and they are doing a good job, IMHO. Still, even if it was all great and streamlined, you wouldn´t be able to get to grips and understand the depth of the EVE Universe in a hands on demo lasting 2-3 minutes. Plus people at museums are shy, the only people that engage in the interactive pieces are geeks and children, who have no fear of technology.
Jim Nastik
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-12-04 13:27:13 UTC
INCENTIVE NEEDED!

players doing work for CCP by providing their recorded material to CCP, should be compensated. Since this collage is one of the rare massmedia promotionof the game and the dust eve universe.
give people, whos material is shown in the final collage some thing. PLEX, Instant finish of one skill of choice (i get chills thinking about this ^^), implants, ships, i could go on here. But i honestly think that for what people will do here (put effort, time and nerves in etc.), and what CCP gets out of it, is not a fair trade.

happy capturing/editing

Tommy Blue
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-12-04 15:42:45 UTC
While displaying videos/metrics/whatever is cool and all, having it interactive should be a priority. Since that is what eve is. You don't watch things pass you by, you go out and change it.

Remember the butterfly effect video? Make an interactive version of that. Give the player a scenario, and different choices. Those choices affect the world in a certain way, and you proceed through some rudimentary storyline making choices: "Do I do X, Y, Z?" And at the end the consequences (good/bad/neutral) are shown to the player. That will have the most dramatic affect upon people. Being able to show that anyone can make an impact in one of the largest virtual worlds will make the most lasting impression than a bunch of videos and metrics.