EVE General Discussion

And if you kept reading beyond that point, you would realise that I never discounted that human beings played this game. I provided justification why aspects of human nature are largely ignored when placed in a social medium of internet gaming. The standard codes of behaviour are simply not followed and that's a basic fact. If we were truly the same on the internet as in RL, this world would be FUBAR.




Well... actually I wanted a pink HUD... my response was a covert Pink HUD proposal to CCP.

Right and wrong on the internet is a blurry line and even less so in an internet game. If you truly follow the same code of ethics in an online internet game as you do in RL, then you are truly an outlier. However, 99.9% of other gamers will do and say things in an online game they would never dream of doing/saying in RL. True nature of immersion and escapism is a powerful drug.



Wishing it doesn't make it so Remiel. Unfortunately, whilst the veil of annonymity and perceived consequence free environment exists, the behaviour will perpetuate. You log-on as this other person, you wreak havoc and salvation is but a 'log-off' button away. The attraction of consequence-free in a world that is anything but is far too attractive. This is why harassment, trolling, racism and ongoing gender inequality on internet will always be rampant.

The only way to really control any of it, is to realise/accept that it is the internet, that these are just pixels and that once you switch the computer off, they have no consequence on your life. I know that it is perhaps shocking, but I will guarantee you, that if you are able to realise this simple fact, it really no longer matters and you no longer enable, but disable abusers and harassers - which is why I am questioning the existence of this topic in the first place. Threads like this, that prove to others that they can indeed get a rise out of people is what truly fuels the ongoing propagation of the same behaviour that the thread is trying to address.

Consider the OP – the myriad of responses he made since the first post had probably prompted several readers and subsequent posters to troll him. In effect he is enabling and enforcing the same type of behaviour he is trying to prevent and/or address – whether consciously or not. I am sure he will vehemently disagree with this and continue reinforcing the validity of his argument, but the more people read his staunch stance, the more they will gravitate in the opposite direction proliferating what he wishes to curb.

Nice little piece of misinformation there—females are less physically powerful in many more ways than "Power lifting"
Is it "sexist" to say that? Is it "sexist" to say that men can't generally sing 2 Cs above middle C, or that men can't naturally carry babies?

As a gay man, maybe I'm just more sympathetic to the obstacles the women face.

And that was like saying "I have no idea that the word "maybe" means the statement is merely hypothesising a possibility based on marginalised groups having the fact that they are marginalised very much in common," which if you think about it (I know it hurts, but give it a try), actually makes sense.

The use of the word "maybe" does not allow all sorts of meaning to be injected into a statement. However I will concede the argument and acknowledge that you have won it. Maybe.

That's like saying "as a latino I am more sympathetic to the obstacles that native american populations face".

Up next: Cancer Survivors Who Game, Midgets Who Game, Men With Benign Moles Who Game.
I'm looking forward to reading the next Benjamin Zephaniah editorial at the Guardian solemnly informing me that just as his ancestors were beaten and exploited so too are Black Men Who Game.

Silly moo. The first people through the Eve Gate were actually Zambian!

Moreover, assuming the "problems" complained about by the OP and much of this thread are real, what are the potential solutions? Find ways of encouraging more men to be more sensitive? More Women to be less sensitive? If you're not talking about potential solutions, aren't you just whining? How do you describe solutions that don't admit an underlying inequality?