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Ami is empty...Lowsec Incursions working as intended?

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YoYo NickyYo
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-29 19:13:14 UTC
Discuss....

I am not, nor will I ever be...Nicky Yo.... The question you should ask is.....When will they release the NICKY!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-11-29 19:14:20 UTC
Yes.

/thread

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
iskflakes
#3 - 2012-11-29 19:17:38 UTC
Remove highsec incursions

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Travis117
Valkyrie Consortium
No Visual.
#4 - 2012-11-29 19:24:15 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Remove highsec incursions

Remove flakes of isk ohh wait...
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-11-29 19:24:52 UTC
IBTL?

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YoYo NickyYo
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-11-29 19:31:07 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
IBTL?


Now why would our kindhearted mods want to lock a thread discussing current game-play issues? Cool


I flew 51 jumps thru lowsec, and died to Incursion rats in Ami. Which was funny, but that's another story....
I think it's the first time I've ever seen Ami empty during Euro prime.....What?



I am not, nor will I ever be...Nicky Yo.... The question you should ask is.....When will they release the NICKY!
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#7 - 2012-11-29 19:31:26 UTC
But honestly, yea, the way ccp overlayed incursions on EVE, they are working as one would expect .

High sec has stable-ish incursion farming communities (of which i am a member lol).

Low Sec doesn't but gets exploited by organized groups like TEST

Null Sec incursions get done quickly by the sov local residents to clear it out and maybe make some bonus isk..

In theroy the null sec incursions pay out the best, followed by low and then high in last place. in practice most incursion isk and LP come from people doing high sec incursions, with low and null way far below.

Just like missions. Null and low have better lvl 4 agents, and low has lvl 5 agents that SPEW great rewards, but the insanely vast majority of missions are done in high sec. Goes to show that no amount of reward is going to push some people away from safety, and that's cool with me, more 10/10s and lvl 5s for me (while still having plenty of combat, whoever said low and null are dead or empty just isn't in the right places).
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-11-29 19:33:48 UTC
iskflakes wrote:
Remove highsec incursions

And in what way will low-sec incursions be filled with people, by removing highsec incursions?
Is it a given that people will flood the low-sec ones, or?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#9 - 2012-11-29 19:34:33 UTC
I nearly died in Ami once.

/c

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joydivisionn
unfair pleasure
#10 - 2012-11-29 19:39:59 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I nearly died in Ami once.

/c


Your kidding, Right ;-)
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-11-29 19:44:13 UTC
If the majority of lowsec incursions are empty, then the rewards are not good enough to make it worth going to low.
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-11-29 19:44:57 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
But honestly, yea, the way ccp overlayed incursions on EVE, they are working as one would expect .

High sec has stable-ish incursion farming communities (of which i am a member lol).

Low Sec doesn't but gets exploited by organized groups like TEST

Null Sec incursions get done quickly by the sov local residents to clear it out and maybe make some bonus isk..

In theroy the null sec incursions pay out the best, followed by low and then high in last place. in practice most incursion isk and LP come from people doing high sec incursions, with low and null way far below.

Just like missions. Null and low have better lvl 4 agents, and low has lvl 5 agents that SPEW great rewards, but the insanely vast majority of missions are done in high sec. Goes to show that no amount of reward is going to push some people away from safety, and that's cool with me, more 10/10s and lvl 5s for me (while still having plenty of combat, whoever said low and null are dead or empty just isn't in the right places).


Most ISK in highsec incursion is due to farming not the actuall payout from sites, low and null pays better for that.

And with people running fleets in VG sites with 12 people, it's almost inevitable that they will keep running sites with
the reduced payouts.
YoYo NickyYo
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-11-29 19:45:33 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I nearly died in Ami once.

/c



Someone actually shot at you?
I would have thought the skies would have opened up and the CCP angels would have smite the unbeliever!


I am not, nor will I ever be...Nicky Yo.... The question you should ask is.....When will they release the NICKY!
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2012-11-29 20:30:50 UTC
removing highsec incursions will not make people run them in lowsec, it wwill just make the vast majority of people stop running them, and then what was the point of creating them in the first place?

they are worth less than the low/null ones.. quite a bit less, but you don't get your s**t pushed in by 20 pirate/sov groups while trying to do them, so the long term isk is better.

ib4l and working as intended imo .. having mercilessly slaughtered several entire lowsec incursion running fleets, or just griefed them out of the system by being in local i can attest to the fact that the incursion runners have very little chance of running them without incurring large, expensive losses
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2012-11-30 00:22:04 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I nearly died in Ami once.

/c


I WAS THAR!!!!

Oh, wait, no I wasn't. Sorry, my bad.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Oopsy Bear
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-11-30 00:28:37 UTC
People mine and mission in high sec because the math is on their side. Once you factor in ship and time losses from going low you see that it is less isk. For some reason people then think that nerfing high is the answer. I would argue that low needs a buff.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2012-11-30 00:34:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Oopsy Bear wrote:
People mine and mission in high sec because the math is on their side. Once you factor in ship and time losses from going low you see that it is less isk. For some reason people then think that nerfing high is the answer. I would argue that low needs a buff.


In this case I really can't argue with that. In fact I've long pondered that in certain cases Low sec should be quite a bit more lucrative than High OR Null... and absolutely feel that a vital resource or two should be exclusive to Low Sec.

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Bump Truck
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-11-30 00:50:45 UTC


Where's the lock? Lack of content.


Low is broken. /thread
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#19 - 2012-11-30 01:02:18 UTC
Obviously reward doesn't cover risk in this case.

I'd do low-sec incursions in case if rewards were 3 times higher.
CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2012-11-30 01:11:13 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Obviously reward doesn't cover risk in this case.

I'd do low-sec incursions in case if rewards were 3 times higher.



can someone make these bear spawn sites crap more isk please
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