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On the events in Evaulon on 29/11/114
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#1 - 2012-11-29 20:40:49 UTC
Hello, Capsuleers.

I speak to you so-called "demigods" and perhaps more importantly to the populations of the planets and orbitals outside of the place known, colloquially, as high security space.

I'd like to bring you a curious coincidence that speaks to the corruption or incompetence of your defenders.

Just before Evaulon was, sadly, attacked by somewhere around 20 Guardian Angel pilots in capital ships and vindicators, the federation navy "redeployed" out of the area due to not finding any significant evidence of continued major Serpentis presence in the systems.

I am receiving information through my network that this is clearly not the case, and in fact the Federation Navy was so "caught off guard" that they did not have any response fleet in the area at all. The angel attack was, of course, set upon by marauding capsuleers, as tends to happen when ever any group masses enough numbers in shiny enough ships to attract the apparently all-sensing greed of the Capsuleer alliances.

Why do you continue to put your faith in your empires? They are failing you. Their systems are outdated, open to corruption from within and without. Today it was the federation. Tomorrow it will be the empire. Perhaps the state or the republic will also prove to be as vulnerable to influence. CONCORD has prove that it cannot protect the border areas outside the central core of the cluster.

Abandon them, as they have abandoned you. Seek protection and co-operation amongst yourselves, and amongst those who have proven that they have the ability to actually project force into the area, be this capsuleer, pirate, or emergent empire.

Protect yourselves, because CONCORD will not protect you. CONCORD has failed.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#2 - 2012-11-29 21:01:43 UTC
Emergent empire, what a nice touch.
Anyways, CONCORD's mission is to keep capsuleers under control.
The federal navy's incapability to properly respond to a sizeable threat in Placid is a long known concern of local citizens, who feel that they're neglected compared to other areas of the federation.

It's good to see that you're having such a healthy interest in the misfortune of others. It must be the perfect rallying ground for your cause.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2012-11-29 21:10:27 UTC
Sansha capitalising on a tragedy (I refuse to celebrate the death of civilians with nodefence against bombardment, even if they fly a Federation flag), in a display of how much they have to clutch at straws to remain relevant now their master's mk2 Sansha make the concept of 'capsuleer lackeys' a pipe dream at best and contractual, signed for, suicide at worst (when he is done with you).

I'd ask for some respect for the dead, but I assume that concept will be lost on you without a couple of communal, neurally invasive, meetings and a good bit of deprogramming to ensure no niggling doubts creep in while you observe the reality of this situation.

Simply put, the straw clutching would be cute if not for the horror of this current situation. I thought you were some kind of PR specialist for the Foundations?

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#4 - 2012-11-29 21:10:55 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
Emergent empire, what a nice touch.
Anyways, CONCORD's mission is to keep capsuleers under control.
The federal navy's incapability to properly respond to a sizeable threat in Placid is a long known concern of local citizens, who feel that they're neglected compared to other areas of the federation.

It's good to see that you're having such a healthy interest in the misfortune of others. It must be the perfect rallying ground for your cause.


I would hope that the other empires might learn a few things.

This was a failure of the Gallente Navy. The Gallente should be examining their systems and processes to learn what happened and how it can be prevented in the future.

CONCORD should look at the events of today, and several other events, and learn that capsuleers are a threat, and perhaps not worth the cost. They cannot, truly, be controlled, as my own allegiance makes clear. I didn't stay tied to them, and I have now been a member of the Foundations longer than I was a loyal member of the four empires. I am also much more of a threat, exponentially so.

The other three core empires should take the opportunity to ask themselves the same questions the Gallente should be asking. Are our systems open to corruption? Are we simply overstretched? Can we trust the capsuleers we have trained to protect us, or will they simply rampage at the site of blood, as the capsuleer organization known as Snuff Box did today? If not, what can we do to protect ourselves?

The people of the cluster need to recognize that a fundamentally new order has come, and those who fail to adapt to it will, as always, fade into history as lessons. They need to understand that, especially in the fact that capsuleers are so powerful and prevalent, their leaders have failed to protect them on a very fundamental level. CONCORD holds our chains for now, but that leash will not stay strong forever as capsuleers pull and strain against it, as long as CONCORD refuses to reinforce those limitations and make them stronger.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#5 - 2012-11-29 21:13:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiberious Thessalonia
Aelisha wrote:
Sansha capitalising on a tragedy (I refuse to celebrate the death of civilians with nodefence against bombardment, even if they fly a Federation flag), in a display of how much they have to clutch at straws to remain relevant now their master's mk2 Sansha make the concept of 'capsuleer lackeys' a pipe dream at best and contractual, signed for, suicide at worst (when he is done with you).

I'd ask for some respect for the dead, but I assume that concept will be lost on you without a couple of communal, neurally invasive, meetings and a good bit of deprogramming to ensure no niggling doubts creep in while you observe the reality of this situation.

Simply put, the straw clutching would be cute if not for the horror of this current situation. I thought you were some kind of PR specialist for the Foundations?


This is not capitalizing on a tragedy, and I mourn for the deaths of the civilians involved, perhaps more keenly than you. The memories flowing through our network have given me a very direct perspective on the horror of having ones planet bombarded from space.

This is a warning. More death will happen unless the empires and the people in them recognize the threat in their skies, and the failure of (or complicity of) their leadership in taking steps to prevent these crimes.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2012-11-29 21:20:30 UTC
The Caldari people have a keen memory of the horror that is indiscriminate planetary bombardment. As such, despite the current state of war between my people and the Gallente Federation I wish to express my unreserved compassion for them in this dark hour.

The bombardment of planetary targets is an atrocity and one that I hope will prove counter-productive to both the perpetrators and their enablers within the Capsuleer community. Despite my antipathy towards the cause espoused by Capsuleer Thessalonia he IS right about this being a massive failure, both operationally within the Gallente Navy and a failure of conscience within those Capsuleer organisations that supported the Serpentis in this heinous act.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Hulemand
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2012-11-29 21:51:08 UTC
I can confirm that a combined force of Serpentis, Angel and Coreli pilots have acquired what we came for at Evaulon VII, and have leveled the city of Rilnais to the ground as a warning not to cross with the Serpentis.

Admiral Hulemand Core Operations Overseer
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#8 - 2012-11-29 22:10:01 UTC
Hulemand wrote:
I can confirm that a combined force of Serpentis, Angel and Coreli pilots have acquired what we came for at Evaulon VII, and have leveled the city of Rilnais to the ground as a warning not to cross with the Serpentis.


You know, indiscriminate razing of entire cities -after- you have gotten what you want is not a good way to encourage cooperation. Positive reinforcement works best, really. Besides, wasn't it capsuleers and other space-faring vessels who got in your way? Or did the populace of Rilnais rise up in one voice and say "No." to the snakes?

Unless it was the people of Rilnais that resisted your demands and fought back, burning them to the ground won't serve as a very good warning. Planetside city dwellers have no political clout or actual leverage on the activities of capsuleers, so terrorizing them won't stop bands of marauding capsuleers from interfering with you next time. In fact, quite the opposite. Most capsuleers won't care, or will only see it as more reason to try and stop you before you have a chance to do so again.

Simply put, razing the city was a poor strategic choice. You terrorized the wrong people, and only give more reason to your enemies and rivals to respond more swiftly and with even greater force next time.

If you want to put a violent stop to someone who bothers you, don't punch a nearby wall in frivolous rage... give that person a black eye instead.

Katrina Oniseki
Launette Vylier
Serpentis Corporation
Serpentis
#9 - 2012-11-29 22:13:42 UTC
Hulemand wrote:
I can confirm that a combined force of Serpentis, Angel and Coreli pilots have acquired what we came for at Evaulon VII, and have leveled the city of Rilnais to the ground as a warning not to cross with the Serpentis.


Support from the Coreli Corporation this evening was much appreciated and far exceeded the standard we are used to from capsuleers.

Despite the loss of a number of vessels and a small percentage of our ground forces, our objective was completed and we find ourselves in a position that offers the possibility of immense profit.

We have the professionalism, skill and ability of Coreli Corporation and Anshar Incorporated personnel to thanks for this. As a support squad to our orbital strike fleet and our dirtside operations, your performance was outstanding.

The sincerest thanks of the Serpentis Corporation are relayed from my superiors.

Regards,

Launette Vylier
Operational Commander
Kobro Division
Serpentis Corporation
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#10 - 2012-11-29 22:13:54 UTC
Sad to see so many foreigners politicize the issue and push forward their ego by decrying the Federation's lack of response (in other channels at least). Remember that NOH collaboration with the Guristas recently? But that's not the point.

The point is, is that these things happen, and as someone who spent four years defending Evaulon and the wider region, it pains me to see my fellow citizens murdered like this.

You can either sit around and blame higher-ups to make you feel better, or you can do something about it. For whatever reason, action did not come. This is just one city out of millions, just like the thousands of deadspace colonies raided on a daily basis. In a perfect world, such atrocities do not happen. But they do, and we must deal with it. It'd be nice if the navies of the cluster had universal presence to guarantee universal defence. But they don't, and we must deal with it.

I'm not going to pretend to know why it was allowed to happen. Man cannot always stop man killing man. That's how the world works. Sit around and think yourself smarter than men and women who control empires of billions of people and hundreds of worlds. The last thing I will do is assume interstellar tyrants like Tibus Heth and Mentas Blaque are dumber than me. If they were, I'd be the ones with their jobs.
Natalcya Katla
Astropolitan Front
#11 - 2012-11-29 22:17:51 UTC
How very precious the lives of planetsiders are.
Hulemand
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2012-11-29 22:35:25 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:


You know, indiscriminate razing of entire cities -after- you have gotten what you want is not a good way to encourage cooperation. Positive reinforcement works best, really. Besides, wasn't it capsuleers and other space-faring vessels who got in your way? Or did the populace of Rilnais rise up in one voice and say "No." to the snakes?

Unless it was the people of Rilnais that resisted your demands and fought back, burning them to the ground won't serve as a very good warning. Planetside city dwellers have no political clout or actual leverage on the activities of capsuleers, so terrorizing them won't stop bands of marauding capsuleers from interfering with you next time. In fact, quite the opposite. Most capsuleers won't care, or will only see it as more reason to try and stop you before you have a chance to do so again.

Simply put, razing the city was a poor strategic choice. You terrorized the wrong people, and only give more reason to your enemies and rivals to respond more swiftly and with even greater force next time.

If you want to put a violent stop to someone who bothers you, don't punch a nearby wall in frivolous rage... give that person a black eye instead.


No, it was a perfect strategic choice, showing all planetary governors in the federation, and beyond, to work with us in the futre. It was after all, not an unfair opportunity Commander Vylier offered to the leaders of Rilnais. Hopefully this will show that the Serpentis is not to be laughed at, not to be turned away.

I am rather sure that public leaders throughout the federation will put pressure on their leaders, who will then apply pressure on their leaders and so forth. Ending with leaders that have actual planetary power.

Admiral Hulemand Core Operations Overseer
Milo Caman
Anshar Incorporated
#13 - 2012-11-29 22:45:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Milo Caman
Launette Vylier wrote:
We have the professionalism, skill and ability of Coreli Corporation and Anshar Incorporated personnel to thanks for this. As a support squad to our orbital strike fleet and our dirtside operations, your performance was outstanding.


I'd like to make it known that at no point were ANSH forces led to believe that bombardment of civilian targets was on the agenda. We were hired as auxiliary forces by SPC affiliates, and we did what we were paid to do. Nothing more.
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#14 - 2012-11-29 22:56:13 UTC
Milo Caman wrote:
We were hired as auxiliary forces by SPC affiliates, and we did what we were paid to do. Nothing more.


Absolvement of moral responsibility through "I just did my job". I'll let other people decide whether to permit that.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#15 - 2012-11-29 23:10:17 UTC
Milo Caman wrote:
... we did what we were paid to do.


You seem to have some blood splatters on your money there.

Katrina Oniseki
Grant Smith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-29 23:15:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Grant Smith
Milo Caman wrote:
Launette Vylier wrote:
We have the professionalism, skill and ability of Coreli Corporation and Anshar Incorporated personnel to thanks for this. As a support squad to our orbital strike fleet and our dirtside operations, your performance was outstanding.


I'd like to make it known that at no point were ANSH forces led to believe that bombardment of civilian targets was on the agenda. We were hired as auxiliary forces by SPC affiliates, and we did what we were paid to do. Nothing more.


I don't know quite why they hired. Recent news feeds and battle reports found appearing accross the interstellar spacewebz, would show some interesting statistics on the outcome of the slaughter, one source, http://kb.snuffboxcorp.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=43784 , suggests soverignty reigned to the much smaller agressors, and the order of initiating self destruct of all Serpentis/Corelli vessels communicated through local channels suggests an admition of defeat.

Regardless, your reasons for being in that system are still of little interest, the adrenaline is what we came for.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-29 23:23:33 UTC
Milo Caman wrote:
I'd like to make it known that at no point were ANSH forces led to believe that bombardment of civilian targets was on the agenda. We were hired as auxiliary forces by SPC affiliates, and we did what we were paid to do. Nothing more.


Was it a nasty surprise to learn that you can't work for the Serpentis Corporation and retain the moral high-ground?

Welcome to the real world, Milo. We've been waiting for you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#18 - 2012-11-29 23:54:59 UTC
The Serpentis Corp glasses an entire city and the only one to comment on it is a Sansha loyalist trying to turn it into propaganda? Where are some reputable sources who can explain exactly what happened?

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#19 - 2012-11-29 23:59:55 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
The Serpentis Corp glasses an entire city and the only one to comment on it is a Sansha loyalist trying to turn it into propaganda? Where are some reputable sources who can explain exactly what happened?


To be fair, a pilot from Coreli Corporation confirmed the accusations. It may not be reputable, but it's a step in the right direction towards legitimate news.

Katrina Oniseki
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#20 - 2012-11-30 01:56:00 UTC
True Slave Foundations spent several hours rescuing survivors of the battle in space. Our access to the planet is limited, but we hope that the planetary governors will be able to handle themselves.

Survivors of ships which were fighting the Serpentis will be released once our medical teams are finished with them, assuming the survivors wish to return, and their respective commanders and countrymen will be willing to take them.

We also rescued the survivors the Serpentis carriers. Survivors of ships known to be affiliated with the Serpentis, or capsuleers known to be on their side, will not be returned. They will be processed immediately, treated for their injuries, and then brought to stain as Prisoners of War, and will be converted into True Slaves.
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