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[Ushra'Khan] And so to war

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Thorvik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-11-28 21:29:37 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Amusing how both sides are trying to paint themselves as something other than people with aggression issues and big guns.


... and you fly around space planting flowers and vegetables?
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#62 - 2012-11-28 21:36:24 UTC
Aha, now I see it.

Well, the Imperial Navy's strategy has paid off. Amazing.

By offering little or no resistance, it allows the situation where the Minmatar end up fighting amongst themselves, which gives a lot of support to the Theology Council propaganda that claims the Minmatar are savages that need to be enslaved to save them from themselves.

Genius long term planning by the Amarr Navy. Out-standing.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Quentin Marshall
#63 - 2012-11-28 21:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Quentin Marshall
LNA is the Minmatar equivalent of SOTF on the Gallente side. Shooting blues and trolling their own militia. It may not be what you intend but that is the perception that LNA is slowly starting to gain.
Scottish Play
Major Kong Freight
#64 - 2012-11-28 21:58:28 UTC
Shalee Lianne wrote:
...or you could come visit with me Kuan. It's been too long.
No. Stop giving "comfort" to the enemy.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#65 - 2012-11-28 22:09:01 UTC
Thorvik wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Amusing how both sides are trying to paint themselves as something other than people with aggression issues and big guns.


... and you fly around space planting flowers and vegetables?


Space flowers and space vegetables, thank you very much. But seriously, no I don't do much flying anymore.

Katrina Oniseki
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#66 - 2012-11-28 23:15:04 UTC
Excellent material for my sermons on the sins of greed, lust, pride and wrath.

Thank you.
Scottish Play
Major Kong Freight
#67 - 2012-11-28 23:17:20 UTC
Andre Vauban wrote:
That is the perception that LNA is slowly starting to gain.
Haha. You pretend that they haven't always had that reputation.
Thorvik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2012-11-28 23:20:13 UTC
Merdaneth wrote:
Excellent material for my sermons on the sins of greed, lust, pride and wrath.

Thank you.



I missed the post with Lust. Can you link it for me? I was hoping to hit all of them myself. I was building up towards the lust part.
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#69 - 2012-11-28 23:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Merdaneth
Thorvik wrote:

I missed the post with Lust. Can you link it for me? I was hoping to hit all of them myself. I was building up towards the lust part.


Lust is an unhealthy desire for things that you are not entitled to.

You should really visit a sermon if you lack the basic knowledge about sins.
Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2012-11-28 23:39:35 UTC
Merdaneth wrote:
Thorvik wrote:

I missed the post with Lust. Can you link it for me? I was hoping to hit all of them myself. I was building up towards the lust part.


Lust is an unhealthy desire for things that you are not entitled to.

You should really visit a sermon if you lack the basic knowledge about sins.


Like the lust for power and control of others.

Perhaps, Merdaneth, you should be a disciple of your own sermons.
Thorvik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-11-28 23:40:21 UTC
Merdaneth wrote:
Thorvik wrote:

I missed the post with Lust. Can you link it for me? I was hoping to hit all of them myself. I was building up towards the lust part.


Lust is an unhealthy desire for things that you are not entitled to.

You should really visit a sermon if you lack the basic knowledge about sins.



This is what I'm talking about when I think of lust. You should come to one of our tribal gatherings. (video is, obviously, titled incorrectly)

Minmatar Tribal Meeting

When it comes to sin; You know nothing Merdaneth. We embrace our life in a way you Amarrians call "sin". These hang-ups are for the weak.
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#72 - 2012-11-28 23:45:26 UTC
Rezig Huruta wrote:
Merdaneth wrote:

Lust is an unhealthy desire for things that you are not entitled to.

You should really visit a sermon if you lack the basic knowledge about sins.


Like the lust for power and control of others.

Perhaps, Merdaneth, you should be a disciple of your own sermons.


Mr. Huruta, you obviously have a better grasp of this subject.

However, while you understand that lust can apply to several desires, you left out the 'entitled' part. It is essential to the definition.

While I'm willing to explain this further, it will be poor manners if I did so, since this thread is not about religion, but about your conflict with the Usha'Khan.
Jessie Arr
Order of the Black Dagger
#73 - 2012-11-29 01:38:46 UTC
Milton Middleson wrote:
Kuan Yida wrote:
Well, no one from Ushra'Khan has contacted me asking me to request a withdrawal of LNA's war dec; not that they would listen at this point, though I might be able to guilt Bahamut into it. So I supposed both groups will now happily go guns free. A pity.


Perhaps your offer to mediate would have been taken if anyone had any faith that LNA would negotiate in good faith, rather than lying, prevaricating, and using diplomacy as a cloak for aggression.


Despite that, it was being accepted with some warmth in the Council, until LNA used the guise of a cease-fire and diplomatic obfuscation to surprise us and drop capitals on an Ushra'Khan fleet while it was in the middle of a Militia-wide joint operation taking an Amarrian Infrastructure Hub.

Discussion of mediation mysteriously ceased on all sides within the Council once that happened.

Now we're just going to be quiet and enjoy the war. Diplomacy is done with. The only way I see to peace now is for the fighting to continue until both sides are satisfied, then perhaps mutual respect will somehow rise from the ashes of war. Perhaps.

Regardless, your offer of mediation was well-taken and appreciated. At this point we simply ask that HUANG maintain their ever-valiant efforts against the Amarr in the warzone. That's really what should be the focus of the rest of the militia right now.

Order of the Black Dagger is a corp based around a simple goal: getting as much small gang PvP as we can handle. We accept USTZ PvP pilots of all skill levels.
Galdornae
Ice Fire Warriors
#74 - 2012-11-29 03:31:26 UTC
Aln Al-Thalab wrote:
LNA does not fight on the frontlines


I hear Kourmonen is nice this time of year. We are the front lines, we are simply taking a little time out of our busy schedule of war-winning to cleanse the unworthy.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Amusing how both sides are trying to paint themselves as something other than people with aggression issues and big guns.


I resemble that remark.

Merdaneth wrote:
Excellent material for my sermons on the sins of greed, lust, pride and wrath.

Thank you.


You are quite welcome.

Jessie Arr wrote:
Now we're just going to be quiet and enjoy the war.


That's the spirit. There shall be explosions, tears, joy, anger, excitement, and then we will all go back to our regularly scheduled violence against the Amarr.
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#75 - 2012-11-29 06:00:58 UTC
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.
Jessie Arr
Order of the Black Dagger
#76 - 2012-11-29 07:26:17 UTC
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia. U'K are the new guys here (in FW)


Actually, 8 years ago Ushra'Khan was living in the Heimatar/Bleak Lands area with CONCORD's longest-running mutual wardec against CVA, who were then New Eden's most powerful Amarrian alliance. That was half a decade before the empires mobilized their respective militias.

So crack open a history book sometime before you start talking about who's been doing things 'since the start.'

Order of the Black Dagger is a corp based around a simple goal: getting as much small gang PvP as we can handle. We accept USTZ PvP pilots of all skill levels.
Lorana Zumjmumber
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2012-11-29 07:43:28 UTC
Why would you declare war on Ushra'Khan? About the only thing they can do and have ever done is sit cloaked and pick off a few pilots here or there.

Wardeccing their allies I suppose would accomplish something, but if they are TLF groups I can see why you would not do that.

LNA has always been the more competant, aggressive, and active of the matari pilots, so to be honest U'K should just do what LNA tells them too.



But in any case, they are all a bunch of dirty terrorists and I hope they all burn.
Thorvik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-11-29 08:06:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorvik
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.


Wow, where to begin....

LNA and KPP did not even exist when I was in TLF. U'K, as Jessie explained, has been fighting Amarr for 8 years. You are only 2+ years into your pod so you may not quite "get it" but we've been here a bit before you and your corp/alliance.Blink Not that this makes any difference. But "being here from the start" is an empty statement without any real history behind it.

I guess you don't quite get that KPP and LNA have been bullying the rest of the Minmatar militia? I get that. Sometimes we are so blinded by the awe we feel with regards to our brothers in arms that we don't always notice what's going on around us.

Just to let you know: LNA gives "warnings" with regards to behaviour and if you don't follow them then they war dec you. This kind of tactic may work well with smaller corps and alliances but we've been bullied by larger alliances and yet, somehow, still survived.

LNA pulling all the weight? wow, that must have been hard for you? Why don't you take a seat and rest for a bit.

U'K was FW (along with SF and EM) before there was a FW. Don't worry your pretty little head now. You can leave and allow the rest of the militia to do what they do best: Cooperate. We, unlike you, are not here to "take over". We are here to cooperate with the rest of the Minmatar militia in an attempt to free our people from the tyranny of the Amarr Unlike you, we aren't the "heros" of FW. Our wish is to make this an inclusive effort that all can participate in.


We Come For Our People.
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#79 - 2012-11-29 08:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Silence iKillYouu
Thorvik wrote:
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.


Wow, where to begin....

LNA and KPP did not even exist when I was in TLF. U'K, as Jessie explained, has been fighting Amarr for 8 years. You are only 2+ years into your pod so you may not quite "get it" but we've been here a bit before you and your corp/alliance.Blink Not that this makes any difference. But "being here from the start" is an empty statement without any real history behind it.

I guess you don't quite get that KPP and LNA have been bullying the rest of the Minmatar militia? I get that. Sometimes we are so blinded by the awe we feel with regards to our brothers in arms that we don't always notice what's going on around us.

Just to let you know: LNA gives "warnings" with regards to behaviour and if you don't follow them then they war dec you. This kind of tactic may work well with smaller corps and alliances but we've been bullied by larger alliances and yet, somehow, still survived.

LNA pulling all the weight? wow, that must have been hard for you? Why don't you take a seat and rest for a bit.

U'K was FW (along with SF and EM) before there was a FW. Don't worry your pretty little head now. You can leave and allow the rest of the militia to do what they do best: Cooperate. We, unlike you, are not here to "take over". We are here to cooperate with the rest of the Minmatar militia in an attempt to free our people from the tyranny of the Amarr Unlike you, we aren't the "heros" of FW. Our wish is to make this an inclusive effort that all can participate in.


We Come For Our People.


got proof?

by the way EM tried the same stunts with us and look how that turned out.

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-11-29 08:22:22 UTC
Thorvik wrote:
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.


Wow, where to begin....

LNA and KPP did not even exist when I was in TLF. U'K, as Jessie explained, has been fighting Amarr for 8 years. You are only 2+ years into your pod so you may not quite "get it" but we've been here a bit before you and your corp/alliance.Blink Not that this makes any difference. But "being here from the start" is an empty statement without any real history behind it.

I guess you don't quite get that KPP and LNA have been bullying the rest of the Minmatar militia? I get that. Sometimes we are so blinded by the awe we feel with regards to our brothers in arms that we don't always notice what's going on around us.

Just to let you know: LNA gives "warnings" with regards to behaviour and if you don't follow them then they war dec you. This kind of tactic may work well with smaller corps and alliances but we've been bullied by larger alliances and yet, somehow, still survived.

LNA pulling all the weight? wow, that must have been hard for you? Why don't you take a seat and rest for a bit.

U'K was FW (along with SF and EM) before there was a FW. Don't worry your pretty little head now. You can leave and allow the rest of the militia to do what they do best: Cooperate. We, unlike you, are not here to "take over". We are here to cooperate with the rest of the Minmatar militia in an attempt to free our people from the tyranny of the Amarr Unlike you, we aren't the "heros" of FW. Our wish is to make this an inclusive effort that all can participate in.


We Come For Our People.


KPP was in militia for years. Every member of KPP. Again you distort the facts for people not knowing better.

UK has not been in militia for years. Now you come back with this and think you can just push people around. You decided to abandon militia in favour of 0.0. Then you self destruct your alliance and reconstitute it come here and create more drama?

I think it is obvious that you guys have serious problems of your own and you seek to draw militia into your fight against the Minmatar people. You dont come for your people, you come to destroy them. You are a treacherous and divisive alliance and operate against the best interests of militia.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net