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Floseswin falls to Minmatar Militia

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JOhnDrees
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#61 - 2012-11-29 02:30:07 UTC
lol, your cynabal and sfi's that died were in system trying to kill U'K while we finished causing the system to be vunerable. People who were in the U'K fleet witnessed and were confused by the blue on blue firing at the plexes until it was explained later. The cynabal and sfi's that we destoryed were destroyed in Floseswin while we were attempting to take the system. It was very obviously self defense epecially considering the timing and location. Try again LNA propaganda fails.
Braitai
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-11-29 02:42:38 UTC
Andiedeath wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Andiedeath, Since the start of this discussion one thing is certain. you clearly sympathize with the terrorists and propagate their deceit. They aggressors first. I have that on multiple credible eye witnesses.

Not to mention my own experience the night prior.


LOL and this trolling behaviour is what causes LNA to loose support in the militia. I would suggest to take a step back and look at the big picture as I have over the last 24 hours. I am well aware that both sides have contributed to this meaningless internal war.


Trolling? Aggression initiated by UK against LNA was what motivated us to wardec them. That is a fact. There was no cease-fire agreement at the time of the bunker bust. That is a fact, despite what UK have been insisting.

We've been called liars and now trolls. The only thing we could possibly be accused of is a disproportionate response to UK's aggression, but I'd consider that a subjective argument. Considering how long this has been going on and the lies which are now flowing freely from members of the UK camp I'm fairly confident we've taken the correct choice of action.

PR is not LNA's strength, UK clearly has us beat in that regard. That doesn't mean we're going to admit to mistakes that we have not made, lest UK manage to convince the rest of militia to side with them, as they have been doing.
Sebastien Starstrider
Everything You Know and Love is Forfeit
#63 - 2012-11-29 03:01:55 UTC
You guys in the Late Night Alliance keep raising the point that Ushra'Khan violated previous truces by firing on other Late Night Alliance ships around the Floseswin area over these past couple of days. I have to ask, being that Ushra'Khan had been working in the Floseswin area for a week, cooperating with allied organizations and clearly having more than enough capability with our little coalition in the area, and also given the fact that you initiated a war with us via a concord-sanctioned declaration of war, why in the hells should anybody give your argument any weight when you come into our area of operation and get shot at by the targets you declared war against? Seriously, if you want to avoid those sorts of incidents... maybe you should cancel the ******* war?
JOhnDrees
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#64 - 2012-11-29 03:34:05 UTC
So LNA, here is your chance, make a public decloration about what the purposes of the wardec is? Obviously U'K isn't going anywhere. If your intention is to fight us to the death for all eternity I think you wiill find less and less friends in your corner. We have repeatedly and publicly extended the olive branch to you to end this nonsense and it has been spitefully turned down every time. What is it that you feel your war will accomplish? We're doing just fine, the amount of cash FW brings will allow UK and LNA to fund this nonsensical war for as long as you let it. You're witnessing a shift in peoples opinions about us and you, it is not because of propaganda, it is not because of some conspiracy against LNA, it is because you are wrong. End the war today and set right your indiscretions.
M0220H
Ice Fire Warriors
#65 - 2012-11-29 05:50:22 UTC
anyone want to see my KPP tattoo?
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-11-29 05:50:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
Andiedeath wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Andiedeath, Since the start of this discussion one thing is certain. you clearly sympathize with the terrorists and propagate their deceit. They aggressors first. I have that on multiple credible eye witnesses.

Not to mention my own experience the night prior.


LOL and this trolling behaviour is what causes LNA to loose support in the militia. I would suggest to take a step back and look at the big picture as I have over the last 24 hours. I am well aware that both sides have contributed to this meaningless internal war.


Its not a troll. Its what has been presented here.

UK POS dead. They brought at least 2 alliances to support. Weyland Mining and Exploration and The Mockers AO. We smashed, 6 kills - 1 loss.

They are still begging for peace. Maybe they should have thought about refraining from AWOXing friendly militia prior to a CONCORD sanctioned wardec.

Novel idea.

Ushra Khan is more concerned with posting silly videos to support their fake assertions than benefiting the Minmatar militia and fighting Amarr.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#67 - 2012-11-29 05:52:20 UTC
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.

JOhnDrees
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#68 - 2012-11-29 05:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: JOhnDrees
LOL yeah, you got that small unarmed tower. You're all heros, meanwhile....

If you're gonna troll us for losing a 70million isk tower, maybe you should try not to lose 220million isk cruisers while you "smash".
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-11-29 06:01:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
JOhnDrees wrote:
LOL yeah, you got that small unarmed tower. You're all heros, meanwhile....

If you're gonna troll us for losing a 70million isk tower, maybe you should try not to lose 220million isk cruisers while you "smash".



We made up for that loss in the 6 kills and dead POS of yours. Our isk and kill ratio still beats yours despite our flying bling, in the Kill Report alone, not to mention the neutrals who died trying to help your lame POS, which if added make the amount much greater.

SMASHED*

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

JOhnDrees
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#70 - 2012-11-29 06:08:49 UTC
So, good job, your propaganda is a little weak. End the war?
Sumdumgi
Ice Fire Warriors
#71 - 2012-11-29 06:13:21 UTC
Silence iKillyouu wrote:
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.


Your application for LNA diplo has been received...Galdornae will get back to you soon.

I feel like I have been hugged by 100 bunnies!
JOhnDrees
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#72 - 2012-11-29 06:17:33 UTC
Anybody who is reading this that is not involved should take note of the special effort LNA takes to avoid any sort of public conversation about ending the war. I can also assure you that any private conversations about the war ending have been futile because of their unwillingness to let go of their spite. I think that in itself should be enough to illustrate exactlly where the responsibility for this continued discrace lies.
Indorian
Dominations Vanguard
#73 - 2012-11-29 06:44:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Indorian
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.


[ 2012.11.25 01:06:56 ] Bahamut420 > i'm not hear for TLF

The "Great Leader" has made clear he is not interested in diplomacy, or the best interests of the Republic. The traitors represents the very worst of our great republic. They were tasked to hold the line south of Auga but instead wish to allocate forces to "punch Ushra"khan in the face". What better way to help the Amarr then to leave the pocket undefended.

These traitors will NOT destroy the work the collective Militia have achieved. Ushra'khan has, in the interest of peace, asked our diplomats to make several attempts to resolve this war.

We will not escalate this war, even though the traitors attacked an undefended Ushra'khan funded safe pos.

Earlier tonight, Ushra'khan came to the aid of long standing allies who's POCO was under attack by the Amarr. We responded by bringing a 19man battlecruiser fleet to confront the Amarr and prevent them access to export taxes on precious planetary resources.

In return, our allies offered their assistance in defending the Militia safe pos. There were losses on both side, however the traitors were successful in destroying the defenseless Militia Safe Pos. As we escorted our allies back to their home system, ensuring on the way they opened fire on no friendly militia, the traitors continued to harass us.

These are the actions traitors and bullies, who have decided shooting blues is a viable strategy.

We can do better, U'k will not stand for traitors.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-11-29 06:58:43 UTC
JOhnDrees wrote:
Anybody who is reading this that is not involved should take note of the special effort LNA takes to avoid any sort of public conversation about ending the war. I can also assure you that any private conversations about the war ending have been futile because of their unwillingness to let go of their spite. I think that in itself should be enough to illustrate exactlly where the responsibility for this continued discrace lies.


A lot of you keep begging for an end to a war you instigated.

We don't need to entertain your cries.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

JOhnDrees
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#75 - 2012-11-29 07:15:45 UTC
We did not instigate anything and you're fully aware of that. We want to end the war because as a part of the militia we have more important things to accomplish. Though we do enjoy the nice fancy killmails you provide us with, we feel that our time could be better spent as part of the militia.

I seriously doubt many (if any) of LNA truely believes that the failures of one or two noob U'K pilots entering plexes that wern't theirs to run (then leaving resulting in 0 losses on either side) is justification for a multibillion isk distraction of a war. No, I don't think even your most confused LNA propaganda machines believe that.

When we cry to end the war it is for the greater good of the militia. If it were not for that, i.e. if we were just random lowsec alliances i'm sure all of U'K would be happy to continue feeding your killboard with easy thrasher ganks while enjoying half billion isk cynabal killmails on it's own killboard.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-11-29 07:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
Indorian wrote:
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Hi everyone.
this isn't a LNA vs the whole milita this is LNA standing up against a old large alliance (U'K) who like to tell others what to do.

Don't get involved minnies. it will blow over soon U'K just like to flex there little arms around and we just wanted to give them a punch in the face. We'll be working together soon.

Also we have been in the militia since the start pulling all the weight and doing everything we can for our whole militia.
U'K are the new guys here (in FW) and they just like to RP being the boss and they hate it that no one takes them seriously.


[ 2012.11.25 01:06:56 ] Bahamut420 > i'm not hear for TLF

The "Great Leader" has made clear he is not interested in diplomacy, or the best interests of the Republic. The traitors represents the very worst of our great republic. They were tasked to hold the line south of Auga but instead wish to allocate forces to "punch Ushra"khan in the face". What better way to help the Amarr then to leave the pocket undefended.

These traitors will NOT destroy the work the collective Militia have achieved. Ushra'khan has, in the interest of peace, asked our diplomats to make several attempts to resolve this war.

We will not escalate this war, even though the traitors attacked an undefended Ushra'khan funded safe pos.

Earlier tonight, Ushra'khan came to the aid of long standing allies who's POCO was under attack by the Amarr. We responded by bringing a 19man battlecruiser fleet to confront the Amarr and prevent them access to export taxes on precious planetary resources.

In return, our allies offered their assistance in defending the Militia safe pos. There were losses on both side, however the traitors were successful in destroying the defenseless Militia Safe Pos. As we escorted our allies back to their home system, ensuring on the way they opened fire on no friendly militia, the traitors continued to harass us.

These are the actions traitors and bullies, who have decided shooting blues is a viable strategy.

We can do better, U'k will not stand for traitors.


Why would we want to have diplomatic talks with someone who calls us the things you have? That's not good diplomacy on your part.

You guys come to militia and decide to accuse a militia alliance made up of corps who have longevity of 4 years over you of these things. You have nerve. You don't give a rats about militia. Just promoting your alliance by creating drama that you can work towards your own narcissistic goals. Unfortunately, you've picked us to act out on so you can have high visibility and inflict maximum damage. Nevermind your attempts to recruit alliances friendly with us for years and general militia into a divisive war that you instigated.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Indorian
Dominations Vanguard
#77 - 2012-11-29 07:29:20 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:


A lot of you keep begging for an end to a war you instigated.

We don't need to entertain your cries.


The words of a traitor cannot be trusted. The facts are clear. You ordered the attack of a U'K pilot, you declared war, you engaged us in the middle of a truce, destroyed a militia safe pos, actively hunted us as we escorted neutrals out of Minmatar controlled space, and can't even produce ONE unified diplomat.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-11-29 07:29:26 UTC
JOhnDrees wrote:
We did not instigate anything .


Keep indulging yourself with this lie.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#79 - 2012-11-29 07:30:33 UTC
Indorian wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:


A lot of you keep begging for an end to a war you instigated.

We don't need to entertain your cries.


The words of a traitor cannot be trusted. The facts are clear. You ordered the attack of a U'K pilot, you declared war, you engaged us in the middle of a truce, destroyed a militia safe pos, actively hunted us as we escorted neutrals out of Minmatar controlled space, and can't even produce ONE unified diplomat.


Hence why Ushra Khan is the biggest threat to Minnie militia. You can't be trusted.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Indorian
Dominations Vanguard
#80 - 2012-11-29 07:57:30 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Indorian wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:


A lot of you keep begging for an end to a war you instigated.

We don't need to entertain your cries.


The words of a traitor cannot be trusted. The facts are clear. You ordered the attack of a U'K pilot, you declared war, you engaged us in the middle of a truce, destroyed a militia safe pos, actively hunted us as we escorted neutrals out of Minmatar controlled space, and can't even produce ONE unified diplomat.


Hence why Ushra Khan is the biggest threat to Minnie militia. You can't be trusted.



I will not allow your fact-less name-calling to degrade this conversation. You avoid the main point of my argument and have no way of providing any evidence LNA is not the aggressors. You sir, as honorable as it is to speak well of your Alliance, I shall remind you there is no shame in admitting error and making amends. We have made it clear we do not want this war, and will do what we must to protect our people and the Republic we serve.