Warfare & Tactics

Not a pro frigate pvp'er, but when your dealing in frigate pvp, whats important

1. speed, how fast do i need to be going, and is using a mwd a huge no no due to signature radius explosion
My rifter right now is cruising around 1450m/s

2. tank, do i even need a tank when using a frigate, obviously not active, but a buffer? yeah or nay?

Besides getting in close, under enemy guns, and kiting, while webbing and scraming, what do i need to know
below is my first run rifter fit

rigs:
3x auxillary thrusters
low:
2x gyrostabilizer
1x overdrive injector system
mid:
1mn afterburner II
x5 prototype engine elevator
warp scrambler II
high
3x 200mm autocannon II

quick specs
cap stable
140 dps
1440 m/s
35m sig radius

thanks for the comments

The rifter is probably one of the most versitile frigs in game.

The fit you have is very specialised and leaves you paper thin and bad agility so you stand a real chance of being alpha'd off the field before you can setup you engagement.

There is a huge amount of variable to think of in a frig fight but you do need some form of tank to survive the glancing hits and 1-2 decent blows...

I use this fit a lot

[Rifter, Cookie Damage Control is For Wimps]

3x 200mm AutoCannon II (Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S)
Rocket Launcher II (Inferno Rage Rocket)

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
1MN Afterburner II

Gyrostabilizer II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Small Armor Repairer II

Small Projectile Ambit Extension I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I

This has same dps as yours, less speed but still good speed AND agility for a combat frig and has 2m 20s of cap.....not very often does cap become an issue.

TBH just buy a stack of them and try different fits for yourself as well as the 'cookie cutter' fits to see what a lot of people have found to work.

Oh yes.....ignore all the rifter haters that will post here saying it is a crap ship and useless now...it's not,

Meh!

Slashers have better fitting then Rifters, but Rifters are much more flexible.

And Rifters look better. Which is why I'll always fly them.

1. Speed. The rifter has plenty of speed compared to other races frigs, certainly tech I frigs.

2. Tank. Outside of some very very specific long range fits, you want to fit a tank of some sort. At the very least a damage control. The traditional rifter fits a dc, 200 plate and an armour repairer. Use your rigs for damage modules.

3. Cap stability is not something you aim for in a PVP frigate. Rather, look at how long it can run a tank and tackle and dps. Most frig 1v1 engagements last no more than 1 minute, usually much closer to 30 seconds.

On a close range fit you need only run the mwd until you get web and scram on your opponent and on a long range fit you need only pulse it in order to keep your range. Don't go around trying to run the mwd permanently.

Slashers are very good at the moment, certainly when fit with an ASB but they still lack the damage of a Rifter. They may work for fleet bait but are weak as 1v1 ships.

The suggested fit posted above is a good start and the Rifter is still a very competent ship to gain experience in. It's not very demanding fittings wise unlike some other frigs so even with 'basic' fitting skills you can be very effective.

Stick with it and experiment and the more you get out there and fight, the more you will learn.

Garv mate get over it.

OK you like the slasher.....or possibly you hate the rifter not that it isn't the i-win button of frig pvp.

As you can see there are a lot of people who still rate the rifter as a viable combat frig.

Seriously dude take a chill pill, you'll give yourself a headache over this.


For me I'm out hunting slashers




Show me on this lego rifter model where the nasty slasher touched you.

should train for a drake

I just find it amusing how **** the Rifter is now ^^

If you do want to try a Slasher then you could try a fit like this.

http://spank.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15224547