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New dev blog: My brain was equipped with the following implants

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MrToby
Code Pandorum
#181 - 2011-10-21 05:27:21 UTC
Each implant will be listed under the Destroyed items: section, with an (Implant) marker (similar to how some items in a ship kill have a (Cargo) or (Drone Bay) marker now). This is to enable a clear distinction between implants carried as cargo in a ship, and implants fitted to a capsule’s pilot.

Just wondering as im no web developer, isnt this just making more work. Pods dont have cargo bays anyway
Rock Harders
State War Academy
Caldari State
#182 - 2011-10-21 06:06:25 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
Now make worn vanity items destructible and make them show on the KM as well!

This. People should be able to display their vanity even on killmails.
Freyh
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#183 - 2011-10-21 06:57:49 UTC
Iceland, 2 weeks ago:

A dark, cold and dusty room with "FIS" written on a post-it note on the door. Suddenly the one person that has been alone in there for years hears a noise outside, the door is kicked in and people starts pooring in. " So this is where the actual game has been made.."
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#184 - 2011-10-21 08:29:30 UTC
Include clone grade as well please!

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Baron Holbach
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#185 - 2011-10-21 09:49:24 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Include clone grade as well please!


2'nd that! this would give real pod lost isk value!
Floydd Heywood
Doomheim
#186 - 2011-10-21 10:35:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Floydd Heywood
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Reposting a rant I made elsewhere regarding killmails
Quote:
KM whoring ruins this game. Logi are crippled by it(the need to km ***** to prove you were in a fight save people!) and it leads people into ******** concepts like the idea that a self destructed ship somehow isn't a loss for your enemy.

By being a KM *****, you are losing fights that you would have won if you had stood back and said 'Yeah, they are DEAD!' because they are getting your tears over them losing a expensive ship.

While the isk war is important, its led people into forgetting that the winner of a fight is he who achieve his objectives, even if he lost 3 times the isk worth of ships. You get tiny alliances claiming they won because the alliance could only field a fleet with less than a single of the aggressors ships, but managed to get 1 lucky kill.

No, no killmails for self destructing. Please, no more killmails at all.

Bring sanity back to how the victor of a fight is decided, and quit penalizing the force multipliers who don't actually shoot anyone while they make the difference between victory and loss.


That's your opinion, but you are clearly a tiny minority so nobody will or should do what you want ;-)

Easy work-around for Logis: Use combat drones and assign them to a fleetmate. Repair drones contribute very little anyway, and dps is always good, too.

Better long-term solution would be: Make the system smarter. If someone is killed by someone, and the second someone was repped by another someone, then the third someone should also be on the killmail. Properly marked as 'support' or something. Same could/should apply for people who used support modules like remote sebos.

Not showing Logis on killmails does not only screw logi pilots who'd like to have a record of their involvement, it also falsifies many kills where one party was repped by (neutral) logis. On the loss mails it may look like one ship achieved solo kills against multiple opponents, when in reality he was supported by five neutral logistics.

Some people may dislike killmails, but >95% of people think they're important. So make them less buggy, smarter and more meaningful. This is actually a small but very important aspect of the game, as everyone can see by watching the reactions in this thread! I think CCP could earn a lot of player gratitude and respect with relatively little development effort here.
impli
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#187 - 2011-10-21 10:37:48 UTC
Cpt Fina wrote:
I would rather see CCP taking the turn towards showing LESS information in killmails.

There are less and less tradesecret – all you want to know about someone can be found on BC, which kinda demystifies the pilots that some of us look up to. What?

Edit: On a second note. Changes like this – more information in killmails – strikes unevenly against small gang / solo pilots since a module / implant fitted on a solo pilots ship / head has a much greater effect on his hers combat abilities than a module / implant fitted on a ship that is a part of a larger gang. Greater disclosure of combat capabilities becomes more and more detrimental as your gang shrinks in size.

Sure, it's not the end of the world for small scale PvP – but it' not a step in the right direction if we want to fight "the blob".


Oh I see a dead girl :D .. to often been pod killed ?
Maul555
Xen Investments
#188 - 2011-10-21 10:40:52 UTC
I'm lovin it!
Dirty Weegie
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#189 - 2011-10-21 10:45:10 UTC
Happy to see this change coming at last

If you can't win fair... Cheat

TDR is Recruiting
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Stealth Alliance
#190 - 2011-10-21 10:58:40 UTC
This is going to lead to primaries being ignored whilst KM Whores are distracted volleying pods Roll

Damn nature, you scary!
Floydd Heywood
Doomheim
#191 - 2011-10-21 11:01:46 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
This is going to lead to primaries being ignored whilst KM Whores are distracted volleying pods Roll


Well then, use it to your advantage when the enemy does it, or kick idiots within your own ranks who make you lose battles by doing this.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#192 - 2011-10-21 11:37:28 UTC
Faith Sunstrider wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
An avatar fired its doomsday on a pod while in Jita.

THIS is overkill.


NO THIS IS EVE

*kick's a man out of an airlock*

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#193 - 2011-10-21 12:07:25 UTC
Finally.

This and the destructable/player controlled custom offices are a step in the right direction, after the disappointment with the capital changes it starts to look slightly more promising now.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Kaylee Nephume
Akritai
#194 - 2011-10-21 12:51:14 UTC
Very nice feature, good to see that so many good things happen lately. Good job CCP!
Vanessa Vansen
Vandeo
#195 - 2011-10-21 13:43:56 UTC
well, I'm kind of looking for the "don't like"-button
why? For the same reason as regular killmails.

I don't mind killmail showing who killed whom and the obvious stuff (like pod or kind of ship).
But for all the rest you should have to salvage the wreck or scan the corpse.

At least, it seems to be a low resources feature, so I hope that not too much time was used for it.
DanMck
Rionnag Alba
#196 - 2011-10-21 14:48:02 UTC  |  Edited by: DanMck
could pods drop salvage parts that are needed to make lower grade style implants that are temp in use and have a lifetime no longer than a month ? this would help to balance a pvpers chance of losing his implants and being many sp behind the +5
impant characters that never undock and are scared to pvp with them in

also if the implants have a short lifetime should not effect the implant market as much ?

could the pod mail contain vanity items lost ? Blink

awesome change all the sameCool
Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#197 - 2011-10-21 17:12:07 UTC
Anvil44 wrote:
Zydrine Megacyte wrote:
Arana Mirelin wrote:
[quote=Trader 99]*stuff*


Think he meant that self-destruct should yield a killmail if someone was shooting them at the time. Granted, in the case of subcaps this shouldn't be that much of an issue, but when you start dealing with caps and supercaps it should give a mail.


Perhaps a "Good Effort, you almost got him" mail? After all self-destruct, for whatever the reason, is still self-destruct. It should stay as is just for the LOLs.Twisted


Yes. A failed-to-kill mail.

The moment you undock you not only consent to pvp, but also to not receiving a killmail for a self-destruct and possibly not finding suitable prey during the next roam.
The Offerer
Doomheim
#198 - 2011-10-21 17:40:05 UTC
That's the spirit. A small change that means a lot to many players. I like it. Smile
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#199 - 2011-10-21 18:28:39 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Thank the Lord! YESSSSSSSSSS


I *TOLD YOU* CCP was going to shine!


Now everyone will be suiciding pods for the mails and the tears will flow like the Nile in Monsoon season.

+1 and much love


Wrong side of the continent otherwise supported
Strike Severasse
#200 - 2011-10-21 21:43:25 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
We've been telling you about the cool things we'll have for you in the winter expansion and there's still plenty left.

In this new dev blog, CCP Masterplan reveals the future of pod kill mails.


Pod kill mails with the implants listed? sure why not, but is that what your spending time on, really?

- Fix High/Low/Null, get them mixing a bit at least! (gate security enhancements, small holdings, alerts, so many options)
- Add ships, always loved (and you're doing this so great)
- Put incentive to be in Null
- Make Null not selling your soul to alliances

so much to do, and kill mail details while 'nice' shows that the focus is wrong!

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