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A PvP Vexor?
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Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-11-25 08:53:30 UTC
So I've been toying with the idea of a PvP Vexor and people ingame disapprove. This is my loadout and it's a tight fit:

Lows
Damage Control II
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Energized Explosive Membrane II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Mids
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Highs
4x Heavy Electron Blaster II
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Rigs
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Drones/Ammo
3x Ogre II
5x Hobgoblin II
Void M ammo

People have been telling me to drop the 800 plate and fit a 1600 instead. If I do that I lose rep prop and my neut. I can do it, but I have no powergrid left. I need the prop mod to close distance and let the blasters do their thing. 1600 plate is just too heavy on powergrid to fit. This fit is intended to take on unsuspecting highsec wardec targets (having a little fun under DecShields umbrella).

As the fitting stands:
502 - DPS. I get around 400 to 600 damage per blaster volley.
18,442 - EHP
184m/s or 1124m/s with MWD.
Everything on except MWD and the cap lasts 1m30s. Stable with both MWD and rep off.


So what do you guys think?
(no this is not a bait ship)

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
Perihelion Olenard
#2 - 2012-11-25 10:04:53 UTC
I think you should wait a week for the new vexor.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#3 - 2012-11-25 12:20:40 UTC
Like Perihelion already said, wait for retribution and your vexor will become a new little beat.

I have designed a fit I intend to use for retribution which is much like the one you posted:

[Vexor, Brawler Injector]
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Ion Blaster II, CN Antimatter
Heavy Ion Blaster II, CN Antimatter
Heavy Ion Blaster II, CN Antimatter
Heavy Ion Blaster II, CN Antimatter

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
Warrior II x5

626 DPS
22,507 EHP, repping 101 pr sec
237m/s - 1570 with MWD
The small injector can run everything except the MWD - 2min and 27 sec with MWD on
takes a 2% implant, but downgrading a gun will make it fit.

About your fit. I would rather fit a Scram on a blastership since the blasters got short range anyways. It will help you keeping your targets pinned.

Void should be only used against bigger targets or targets that is pinned down pretty well. A single web aint enough for that against other cruisers and against frigs you will do **** dmg.

Dont use 3 ogres. Its better to use 2 ogres, 2 hammerheads and one hobgoblin. Their paper dps is higher and their applied dps is much higher compared to 3 ogres.

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Alara IonStorm
#4 - 2012-11-25 13:26:54 UTC
I don't have Heavy II's yet so I use more accurate Hammers. Here is what I use currently and have gamed out for the future.

[Vexor, Current 1600mm Standard]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

EANM II/ 44k EHP average, 390 DPS w/ Hammers, 1104m/s
DDA II /34k EHP Average, 440 DPS w/ Hammers, 1104m/s


Empty Mids = Web, Small Cap Boost, TD, Omni, Sebo, Point, Ect, Ect, Ect.

[Vexor, Future Armor]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
[empty med slot]
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

48k EHP average, 502 DPS with Hammers. 1290m/s

[Vexor, Future Armor Damage]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II or Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

[empty med slot]
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

35k EHP, 573 DPS with Hammers / 2 DDA, 1340m/s

[Vexor, Future Shield Damage]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II or Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x3
Hammerhead II x1

27k EHP average, 644DPS w/ Hammers, 1720m/s

Sometimes I do more back up Drones instead of ECM but the new 25m3 lets me use smaller ECM Drones and keep the extra.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#5 - 2012-11-25 13:39:51 UTC
Is CPU holding you back from all Electrons on the first future fit?
Alara IonStorm
#6 - 2012-11-25 13:59:53 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Is CPU holding you back from all Electrons on the first future fit?

Power Grid, it is above 5% more needed with the 1600mm II, you can drop to a Meta 4 Plate but the difference in DPS is only 18.

CPU is fine if you use Meta Tackle.

[Vexor, Future Armor Electrons]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

Might use this fit as well. Planning about 6 of these things.

I am something of a Vexor Fan.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14572808
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14513881
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14559822
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14572049
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New and improved is going to rock. Faster, Stronger and Harder Hitting.
Voi Lutois
Vonkell
#7 - 2012-11-25 14:03:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Voi Lutois
Here's a couple fits I like.

[Vexor, 1600]

Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
4x 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S

2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I

Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Hobgoblin II x5

420 dps
47k ehp

===================================================

[Vexor, cheap deeps]

Damage Control II
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

4x Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[Empty High slot] <-- offline salvager for heat or something

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Hobgoblin II x5

only 17k ehp but puts out close to 750 dps with antimatter and no heat.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#8 - 2012-11-25 14:13:39 UTC
I like it with the rolled tungsten and two webs. 520 DPS and >40k EHP I imagine. 805 hybrid damage implants sell for stupid cheap. I stocked up on about 10 for less then 10 million isk apiece. I also use the 905 surgical strike. That may be an SFI killer.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#9 - 2012-11-25 14:34:32 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
I like it with the rolled tungsten and two webs. 520 DPS and >40k EHP I imagine. 805 hybrid damage implants sell for stupid cheap. I stocked up on about 10 for less then 10 million isk apiece. I also use the 905 surgical strike. That may be an SFI killer.


Interesting :)

Did the EFT math and the result is:
43,412 EHP
636 dps with void and ogre-hammer-hob setup
610 with CN antimatter and ogre-hammer-hob setup
515 with CN antimatter and 5 hammerheads.

Thats all before the implants and overheat.
But the only question is if the dual web is enough to slow the SFI down for using void and the heavy drones.

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Otto Weston
Pod Goo Extraction Agency
#10 - 2012-11-25 14:42:31 UTC
You can squeeze just over 800 dps out of a Vexor. That thing is really mean.

[Vexor, Death]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Hammerhead II x2
Ogre II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
Everything's Air Droppable at least once.
Seraph Castillon
In Control
#11 - 2012-11-25 14:52:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Castillon
Otto Weston wrote:
You can squeeze just over 800 dps out of a Vexor. That thing is really mean.

[Vexor, Death]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Hammerhead II x2
Ogre II x2
Hobgoblin II x1


Why would you fit resist rigs without even a Plate or DCU?


[Vexor, Death: still rediculous, but improved]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Hammerhead II x2
Ogre II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#12 - 2012-11-26 15:18:00 UTC
Eh, nix the Ogres, in pvp you want fast damage application over raw damage.

Other than that, blaster Vexor is legit. Actually the rail Vexor is surprisingly solid as a midrange brawler, as well, but blaster is for sure the zappy one.