EVE New Citizens Q&A

Bestower (and all such ships) are haulers, designed to move reasonably large amounts of material from A to B. They are NOT mining ships and are terrible at mining (no bonuses, minimal turret hardpoints, etc).

Amarr unfortunately has no mining frigate, so you can train for the Caldari mining frigate (bantam) for the short term, use a destroyer (lots of high slots even though they have no mining bonus), wait until Dec 4 (for the new ORE mining frigate) or train for a mining barge (should be med-term goal for any miner)

As for fit, you can go all out cargo space, which is cargo expanders in the low, cargo optimisation rigs, probably an AB in the mid and leave the high empty or you can go for lower cargo and more tank, so hardeners and a DC in the lows, or you can go for something in between.

What you can use that for is a hauler for your corp mining operations...

My head >>>>> Desk.

Yet another guy that thinks Industrial means mining.

As for a bestower, like you said, it's for hauling. So put a tank on it and cargo mods if you need bit more room and transport stuff with it. Industrials aren't known for their huge amount of possible fits and purposes.

As for miners:

Currently (up until 4 December 2012) there are mining bonused frigates for Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente (the Amarr one already disappeared when they tested the ship overhaul on Amarr).

After the frigates, there are the bonused cruisers (which will also disappear on 4 Dec. 2012) with a bonus to mining
And of course Mining Barges and Exhumers

AFTER 4 December there will be 1 single frigate that is made for mining: ORE mining frigate. It will be bonused to mining, old the old mining frigates will be changed in "fighting" ships.

Cruisers with bonuses will disappear so you will have to move from a Frigate to a Mining Barge.

Heheheh.

As Doddy suggests, the Bestower is a hauler ship, but you can get some shock value if you get attacked by frigates and it turns out that you've fitted your ship to trap and kill the attackers. Such tactics don't work twice, but the first time it's fun.

The bread and butter of transporting goods are Expanded Cargohold modules, which expand your ship's cargo, obviously. You fill all the low slots with these, and further expand your cargo capacity by using containers (look at giant secure containers on the market), which have some built-in volume compression.

The ship has a huge CPU but little power grid, and power grid is what limits the size of weapons, afterburners, and defenses you can put in.

Because you've used all the low slots for cargo expansion, you're forced to used the med slots for defense, and that means shield defense. Fit the largest shield extender that you can find (it'll use up most of your power grid), and then fit shield resistance modules (EM especially) to shore up the shield toughness.

The high slots can be fitted with utility modules. Small Tractor Beam is useful for pulling cans to you rather than having to fly in a slow bulky ship towards them. One mining laser if you're going to sit in a belt to help a mining operation by carrying their ore to station as they mine it. Otherwise, if you're actually transporting stuff between stations, maybe a cloak could help you get away in some situations, but you'll have to read up on gate camps and PVP to get an idea of how to use that.

Expanded Cargoholds slow down your ship a lot. So, if you're going to transport something small, remove them and replace them with an armor defense (Damage Control, perhaps Armor Plates, definitely armor resistance modules), or with speed modules such as Overdrive Injectors or Nanofiber Internal Structures. This will make your journey faster.

For transporting things, be aware of gate camps, and suicide ganking in high sec. Basically if the value of goods in your cargo hold is high (typically more than 5-10 million ISK), it's worth sacrificing a 1 million ISK ship to kill you and loot your stuff. This happens in high sec, so be vigilant. Never use the autopilot to travel; set a route in the map but manually right-click on each yellow gate on the way and order your ship to warp to 0, so you're less vulnerable.

For mining, you need to mine in a vessel that has many turret slots, large CPU, and possibly bonuses to mining yield. You jet the ore into space (it's vulnerable to theft), and you pick it up periodically with your Bestower. If you're in a group, others can mine and you can transport it to station for them in your Bestower.

Otherwise you can open the Contracts interface and switch it to Courier contracts, and try to see what's available. Courier contracts are made by other players who need somebody with a transport ship to move their stuff around. You're looking for jobs that ask you to move stuff between high-sec locations, that are of a size that fits in your Bestower, and that are paying well (Reward is high, Collateral is average for the market). Beware of scams, such as routes that send you to pirate space or to 0.0 space where you can't dock, or contracts that look too good to be true.

Don't feel bad for training for and buying an industrial ship. Every pilot needs one; it'll be extremely useful to you no matter what your intended career is. There is so much junk to move around in EVE

There are three main philosophies when fitting industrials. In all cases you want to use mids for shield defense.

Rule number one of all three is that you never autopilot.
Rule number two is to not carry huge amounts of value in one go, and NEVER your net worth.

1) Tank
Fit a DC2 in your lows, hell, you could maybe even go for bullwark defenses to increase your hull EHP which might get you out of a gank. This isn't very common because in general if someone is attacking you and you are in an industrial, you are about to die unless they offer a ransom. This can catch out a couple of idiot pirates in thrashers, though.

2) Cargospace
Fit expanded cargoholds. Fit expanded cargohold rigs. Do everything in your power to get as much m3 out of your ship as it can hold. This has the highest potential for profit, but actually lowers your ability to tank AND makes you slower, so easier to catch. Use only for low-value high-volume runs like minerals, in space your consider to be safe (no space is safe)

3) Align time
Dont fit any expanded cargoholds, dont fit any cargo rigs. You want increased align time so that you spend as little time vulnerable as possible. Nanofiber Internal Structures in the lows, agility rigs. If they can't catch you they cant kill you. If you do get caught (it can and will happen eventually) then you're about to die. Nothing new there.

There are a few cruisers that make decent solo miners. The vexor is one that comes to mind.

Honor tanks have so much honor

Pick a quiet system to mine in then. Can-flipping isn't as common as it used to be before the barge changes, but it does still happen