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"New" in Retribution
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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#1 - 2012-11-22 05:37:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Samroski
The Eve Retribution page lists the following "new" features:

  1. Bounty hunting
  2. Crimewatch
  3. Rebalancing and ship roles
  4. New destroyers
  5. The ORE frigate
  6. Tactical combat features
  7. Upgraded NPC AI

Items 4 and 5 are certainly new. The rest is just re-hashing of old stuff, that they should have got right the first time. There is nothing wrong in this, but these are hardly features that you'd strut around with.

Maybe I'm just bitter, as I feel that the last real content we got was in Apocrypha.

So will these "new" features have an impact on how we live in New Eden? Will our lives change? Or has Dust ensured that this expansion is as insipid as it can get?

Any colour you like.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#2 - 2012-11-22 05:43:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
You missed salvage drones, BTW.

Now have a look around you and see how many people are flying Moas, Exequrors, Scythes, or augorors. When the expansion hits, you will see more people flying these ships. Doesn't that count as new content?

Apocrypha is likely to be the largest "shiny new stuff" expansion EVE will ever have, unless you count DUST and orbital bombardment as at least as big as Apocrypha.

But yes, you are certainly bitter. The V3 project is nearing completion, new nebula lighting is on the way, new starbases are on the way: this is what expansions for EVE typically involve. Apocrypha was a stand out exception. Most expansions have introduced maybe one new ship, maybe one new mechanic. Then there was Trinity which swapped graphics for everything in one go.

Now consider this: if I was to take the petrol engine out of my car and replace it with an electric motor, would I still be driving the same car? Nothing visible has changed, but it is a different car.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-11-22 05:44:21 UTC
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.

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Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-11-22 05:51:06 UTC
How about random supernovae in hi sec? Twisted

Yeeee! 
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-11-22 06:02:05 UTC
If you're not excited about ship rebalancing and bounty hunting I begin to wonder if you even play this game

They'll have the same effect as any new feature would
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-11-22 06:08:59 UTC
Can't wait for the fourth midslot on the Thorax. Best "expansion" so far for me.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-22 06:18:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.



The content you guys generate is getting old.... Need to do something new...

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-11-22 06:21:14 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.

The content you guys generate is getting old.... Need to do something new...

What content have you generated lately?

CCP has no sense of humour.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-22 06:21:55 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.



The content you guys generate is getting old.... Need to do something new...


You could always generate your own content. Oh that's right, you need CCP to generate content for you in a user generated content game.

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Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-11-22 06:26:52 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.



The content you guys generate is getting old.... Need to do something new...


You could always generate your own content. Oh that's right, you need CCP to generate content for you in a user generated content game.



Rofl so mad, I don't need CCP to put anything in for me to play, I find ways to entertain myself and my friends. My statement was more toward your kind that just do the same old stuff over and over again thinking it is great and new.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-11-22 06:31:51 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Rofl so mad, I don't need CCP to put anything in for me to play, I find ways to entertain myself and my friends. My statement was more toward your kind that just do the same old stuff over and over again thinking it is great and new.


Do you always assume anger where it doesn't exist? Blowing up stupid people & making their stuff mine will never get old.

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#12 - 2012-11-22 06:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Forget about actual content expansions until +1 year after Dust release. Clearly CCP isn't Trion and is unable to deliver content for more than 1 game at once.

I guess piracy will be a little bit more complicated with new bounties systems + logistics cruisers will be everywhere (it's good) - and that's it.
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#13 - 2012-11-22 06:43:52 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
If you're not excited about ship rebalancing and bounty hunting I begin to wonder if you even play this game

They'll have the same effect as any new feature would

So all CCP need to do is to juggle ship balance and tweak a couple of old mechanics- and voilà! New content for another expansion!

Any colour you like.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-11-22 06:51:27 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.

only if CCP fixed users Cool

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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#15 - 2012-11-22 06:51:58 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:

But yes, you are certainly bitter. The V3 project is nearing completion, new nebula lighting is on the way, new starbases are on the way: this is what expansions for EVE typically involve.

There have been a lot of things "on the way" for a long time in Eve. I refuse to let this cloud my judgement. Thus, no doubt, I'm bitter :)

Any colour you like.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-22 06:54:40 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ritsum wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
User generated content is the only content you should ever need.



The content you guys generate is getting old.... Need to do something new...


You could always generate your own content. Oh that's right, you need CCP to generate content for you in a user generated content game.



Rofl so mad, I don't need CCP to put anything in for me to play, I find ways to entertain myself and my friends. My statement was more toward your kind that just do the same old stuff over and over again thinking it is great and new.

short memory you know.... every day is new....
happy children Lol

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-11-22 06:59:16 UTC
Samroski wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
If you're not excited about ship rebalancing and bounty hunting I begin to wonder if you even play this game

They'll have the same effect as any new feature would

So all CCP need to do is to juggle ship balance and tweak a couple of old mechanics- and voilà! New content for another expansion!

tweak, verb

1. completely overhaul
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#18 - 2012-11-22 07:09:54 UTC
items 1-12 feel new to me.

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Carlton Foster
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-11-22 11:07:18 UTC
Well in my opinion this patch is very WIN. Upgrading old stuff so it's better is just as good as adding new stuff in my book.

Let's face it bounties and kill rights were meh. Now I think they are going to be a very real part of the game.

I for one think CCP is doing a great job. There is no other game like EvE and EvE is awesome!
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#20 - 2012-11-22 11:10:46 UTC
New sound system is severely lacking from the Retribution features page.
Dip into nullsec and you'll be greeted by creepy ambient noise that might have come from an Alien(s) movie.
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