EVE General Discussion

huh wat? arn't all eve players Geeks or is that Goons :)

I have a calculater on my desk :) lol

Maybe its just me and I am being crazy and hostile, but I find it very grating when you begin every post with a link to your blog. Is your blog really hurting that bad for traffic that you need to spam the link in GD every other day?

Probably has ads on it.

No, its not. The current skill point system trains different skills at different rates depending on your attributes and implants



This becomes really complex. Instead of training some skills faster, you're suggesting different skills cost more or less SP depending on your attributes and implants. But what happens if you do a remap or get your implants podded half way through your training period ?

The OP's suggestion can only work if you remove attributes and implants from the game. You would be left with no ability to specialise and everyone would buy one single implant which maximises skill point gain. Is that really what you want ?

What about people who don't want to accumulate Charisma points? The only way this would work is if you could choose what attributes to accumulate skill points for.

But overall this pretty much sums up my stance on this

Wow, this is an excellent idea.

In fact, it serves to alleviate a LOT of problems with this game.

1) Set & Forget. No more issues with skill queue not being longer than 24 hours. Now you can just accumulate SP!

2) Invigorate the Character Bazaar. Buying & selling of toons with accumulated SP would become quite a thriving market full of pre-loaded active accounts. It would be in the seller's best interest to train nothing for as long as possible netting an excellent ROI for them AND buffing CCP's subscriber rate. I would def pay 15b-25b for clean 50msp character.

3) This encourages PROPER planning from the outset. People will think long and hard about what they're saving up for - just like they should be in RL. No more hire purchasing of skills!

4) Finally a fix for the cost of clones! For too long the high cost of 100m+ sp clones has made PVP almost unbearable. Now you can stop training skills, and just hold on to accumulated SP until the cost of clones is revised.

+1 x 1000.

I'd be fine with this. Because of the remap timer, you'd have to make changes to the remap system too though, if you'd go down the universal skillpoint route.

And how exactly would this system change that?

People can farm SP on alt accounts and then come and kill EVE once the next FOTM comes around?

Sure, that's going to happen. A bunch of space-rich EVE players who are totally not already crosstrained for pretty much everything sub-capital, are going to sub SP farming accounts en masse so they can multi-box FOTM ships

If you look at the EVE demopgraphic, even if it would happen, it would be a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of players who are crosstrained.

FOTM is about the most ridiculous argument you can use against this idea.

Your assuming that people on the whole will budget and train for the long term rather than impulse shopping and buying of skills. The new player that has NO clue and wants to play is still going to be jumping around at each new skill point amassed looking for something to spend it on that will be "fun" and the established players will still just create alt accounts and farm SPs or train specific characters with their Evemon SP plans set in stone as they are now.

Imo its make things a lot more complicated with regard to how SPs and the conversions function and wouldnt give any real gain over the current system. I think itd make the simple complicated needlessly. So no gains in any sense of the word over the current system.

Study, figure out what you want to do and train it.

It's a discussion.

If I thought this was the be-all end-all of skilling in EVE, I would have posted it to Features & Ideas.

I'm simply interested in the discussion and people's thoughts.

You expressed your opinion, and that's cool. I do not think you're wrong.