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Serpentis Phi Outpost Loot Changes?
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Matthias Vilmet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-11-21 13:55:07 UTC
I used to do these all the time and the payout was in the hundreds of millions. When there was only 20 mil in loot, then I would salvage the Operator and he would give me about 50 more mil.

Sooo... the last 12 Serpentis Phi Outposts that I have done have revealled zip. I've only gotten Personal Effects, or salvage. Have they been changed? Is it because I am running high sec versions of the site?


Now, I understand the "site loot is random" argument..... but I'm arguing that it should be random yet similar. They are alot of work to find with all the competition, having to go get a ship that can run it, and then actually running it. So having loot vary from 0 to 200 million makes no sense.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-11-21 15:19:07 UTC
random loot is random

I should buy an Ishtar.
Matthias Vilmet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-11-21 15:30:29 UTC
I understand that, as I said above. I just thin there should be less of a variance.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-11-21 16:14:10 UTC
ok

I should buy an Ishtar.
Luciffer 13
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-11-21 16:36:13 UTC
I have your contract right here you sold your soul only for 12 good drops, not all Phi Outposts you can find till the rest of your life.
Next time read small letters at the bottom of the page.
Pleasure doing business with you.
Nelran Estemaire
No Spoon Inc
#6 - 2012-11-21 17:08:46 UTC
this game is risk and reward, highsec exploration risk is flying home emptyhanded, something very very minor in my opinion.
Matthias Vilmet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-21 17:11:44 UTC
This site occurs more often in lowsec. Does that mean the rewards of running the same site in lowsec are greater?
Nelran Estemaire
No Spoon Inc
#8 - 2012-11-21 17:21:49 UTC
I seriously doubt it occurs more often in low than in high, but its run far more often in high. The site is the same however, so you got to think over if the same risk is worth it in low as in high.
Matthias Vilmet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-21 17:38:27 UTC
You know I am really saying this about all sites. There should not be a chance of nothing happening. Wasting a players time is not a recipe for fun....... and I am guessing that CCP wants their game to be fun. It already takes me about 1-2 hours to find one of these sites.. and the possibility that it has already been taken, or is going to be taken when I leave to get my Gila to run it.

When it's finished, to get nothing.... is just wrong. I should have been doing FW missions in my Nemesis.
Luciffer 13
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-11-21 17:42:36 UTC
Plz go do FW.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#11 - 2012-11-21 17:52:20 UTC
Matthias Vilmet wrote:
You know I am really saying this about all sites. There should not be a chance of nothing happening. Wasting a players time is not a recipe for fun....... and I am guessing that CCP wants their game to be fun. It already takes me about 1-2 hours to find one of these sites.. and the possibility that it has already been taken, or is going to be taken when I leave to get my Gila to run it.


Exploration isn't for you. Try something else.

Oh, and OPE is not "nothing", even if it isn't what you wanted.
Luciffer 13
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-11-21 18:16:47 UTC
Karmu Ivanostrov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-11-21 18:19:01 UTC
Luciffer 13 wrote:
Working as intended


Please tell me you went to find a Phi Outpost just for this lol
Luciffer 13
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-11-21 18:27:16 UTC
Karmu Ivanostrov wrote:
Luciffer 13 wrote:
Working as intended


Please tell me you went to find a Phi Outpost just for this lol


Do i look like i could do something like that Evil
Matthias Vilmet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-11-21 18:49:06 UTC
DAMN YOU!!!!!!! I deserved that drop! But really, thanks for showing me that it still does happen.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#16 - 2012-11-21 21:54:53 UTC
me, me, me, now, now, now...

/sigh

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-11-22 05:44:11 UTC
I think that, every character should have a Karma Meter. Every time you get bad drops from a site, it will fill the meter up. Once the meter is full, the next site you run should give you lots of good loot. And if you have a high CHA stat, you should get a bonus to how fast the meter fills up.
Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-11-22 12:43:58 UTC
seems as though the OP gains his enjoyment from gaining ISK
seems like a good idea

can I have your stuff when you quit?
btw, I'm serious

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Delilah Tsuruomo
everything disallowed
#19 - 2012-11-22 19:33:40 UTC
This is the 4/10 right?

I used to run these A LOT last year with an Ishtar, 1 in every 2 would drop a corelum C type mwd worth 130mil.

Not had one in the last dozen or so I have ran.
Luciffer 13
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-11-22 22:22:59 UTC
Delilah Tsuruomo wrote:
This is the 4/10 right?

I used to run these A LOT last year with an Ishtar, 1 in every 2 would drop a corelum C type mwd worth 130mil.

Not had one in the last dozen or so I have ran.

Looks like i have to go find another one.