EVE General Discussion

Be ready: Sleepers hurt. Thay are my favourite enemy faction. Hard and smart.

There is no point in skill point training where you magically become "useful" in PVP. From day 1, you should be able to fit up a warp disruptor, or act as a scout.

Find a new player friendly PVP corp... there are lots of them out there, and go PVP.

Waiting until you get to some magical skill points is a waste of play time.

I can flipped people in my T1-fit arbitrator and then wardecced people who cried with my 1-man corp and killed them some more with my T1-fit arbitrator. It was really fun and I learned a lot about hunting and aggression mechanics.

This was in 2009.

But you can't do this anymore!

• NOONE JETCAN MINES
• WARDEC COSTS 50MIL AND YOU GET DEC-SHIELDED ANYWAY
• THERE ARE SO FEW NEW PLAYERS AND SO MANY ALTS
• EVERYONE IS FLYING FACTION BS AND T3 AND SHITFITS ARE THE EXCEPTION RATHER THAN THE NORM
• RISK-AVERSE MENTALITY HAS INCREASED TENFOLD
• PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH ISK THAT LOSSES DONT EVEN HURT

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cosmic_Anomaly


I do that when I CBF scanning down sites to do... Still sometimes get a bit of isk for little effort and not much risk pending on where you are and what sites you are doing. Also allows you to chat and internet surf while doing it pending on what ship you are using.

You want some fights you have the possibility of winning? Come down to FW low-sec. Don't necessarily have to join Faction Warfare (although I would highly advise it, both for the funnest pew pew in New Eden and the isk.) But you can just come as a non FW member, and mess with FW people running plexes. You will find lots of solo destroyers in the minor plexes, that you can 1v1. People are a lot less apt to warp away than they were in the gunless frig days.

Keep only shooting red crosses and you may find yourself getting bored of EVE rather quick. Some people find it fun, but most people find PvE in EVE dreadfully dull. The fact that all these missions/complexes have been done 10,000's times and are totally documented with step by step directions makes missions even more boring.

LHA Tarawa I was going to respond to you in full, but I am trying really really hard to be less confrontational on the internets. You make it very hard for me sir. But I will say this, your lack of understanding is astounding.

Jetcan mining. Best mining

Like this http://i.imgur.com/vj4kC.jpg

Tabbed out, watching a movie on synchtube with the fleet

Thats what i did last night hanging with my fleet 3 hours behind a Titan waiting. Nothing happend but still it was more fun than running lvl 3s all night making minor isk. Actually it was really fun being with so many people geting organized and wait, even if we at last dident have to act.

I am doing Highsec Explorations since the first skills i learnd in eve where scaning/salvaging/hacking/analyzing. When i learn to fly a Tengu i will go Explore low sec 0.0 and WH. I also enjoy just roaming araound looking for a fight. But the Best is when i fly fleet with Corp and Aliance.
My Goal definatly is not Solo play.
Also i am happy with my Corp.

Eve is an MMO, in pvp you bring friends.
if you have no friends your just going to die, a lot.




To all the e-honour spewing forum warriors who will no doubt instantly defend "solo PvP in EvE" ..
There is no Battleground Entry Queue.
There is no Arena.

I mostly play other games while training. Especially if the skill is a level V and takes 3+ weeks. Just too soul-crushing. Even 1-week skills are sometimes too much to wait for.



This, to me, is actually a huge problem as it has a high "avalanche potential".

Imagine a game with 500k characters. But only 100k players. That is, each player has 5 alts.If 1 player quits the game, for whatever reason that may even be totally unrelated to the game itself, this costs the game 5 characters. In EVE's case, it costs the game 5 accounts.

Now, imagine EVE releases a "bad expansion", such as Incarna. And a few thousand people quit? That could easily mean a five-digit number of subscriptions lost. That's the 14-17% subscription loss we saw in Incarna (don't remember the official figure). It wasn't 17% of players quitting, the percentage was much lower than that, but the amount of alts bloomed that loss into a much larger subscription loss.

That's the avalanche effect I'm talking about. When every player has 5-8 alt accounts, it leads to a much less stable system than games with 1 account per person. I mean, look at current what, 450k subs? How many of those are just dummy accounts being trained to be sold at the Character Bazaar? They don't really "exist" in the normal sense of the word. They log in for a minute to queue up the skills and log off again.

The high number of alts also means there's a very low number of new people coming in. Which is very, very bad. And a shiny new tutorial is not going to cut it - the game mechanics need to be more fun and immersive and engaging. But that's a story for another time, sorry for the derail.