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TharOkha
0asis Group
#61 - 2012-11-20 13:47:47 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
Well if bumping is used in combat, i dont have a problem with that. But if it is used just for lulz, i think it is pure griefing (in case of Freighter bumping, as they are superslow to stop and realign).

And what's happening here is not "pure griefing", the bumps are in preparation of combat.



You are welcome to visit Jita. There are a lot of trolls that bumps freighters just for lulz, with no intention for combat. Pure griefing...

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-11-20 13:50:43 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
Well if bumping is used in combat, i dont have a problem with that. But if it is used just for lulz, i think it is pure griefing (in case of Freighter bumping, as they are superslow to stop and realign).

And what's happening here is not "pure griefing", the bumps are in preparation of combat.



You are welcome to visit Jita. There are a lot of trolls that bumps freighters just for lulz, with no intention for combat. Pure griefing...

Make an instaundock, and you'll avoid bumping into other ships and the station. I think you'll find a lot of the "bumps" are actually you bumping into someone else or the station because you're so slow you break the bump invulnerability timer, or whatever it's called.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-11-20 13:53:00 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
Well if bumping is used in combat, i dont have a problem with that. But if it is used just for lulz, i think it is pure griefing (in case of Freighter bumping, as they are superslow to stop and realign).

And what's happening here is not "pure griefing", the bumps are in preparation of combat.



You are welcome to visit Jita. There are a lot of trolls that bumps freighters just for lulz, with no intention for combat. Pure griefing...



Ah but according to CCP that's not griefing that's part of the game ..... Roll and there plenty of ways you can avoid it in your freighter ..... What? like leave it in the hanger maybe ???



Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2012-11-20 13:54:37 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
Well if bumping is used in combat, i dont have a problem with that. But if it is used just for lulz, i think it is pure griefing (in case of Freighter bumping, as they are superslow to stop and realign).

And what's happening here is not "pure griefing", the bumps are in preparation of combat.



You are welcome to visit Jita. There are a lot of trolls that bumps freighters just for lulz, with no intention for combat. Pure griefing...

Make an instaundock, and you'll avoid bumping into other ships and the station. I think you'll find a lot of the "bumps" are actually you bumping into someone else or the station because you're so slow you break the bump invulnerability timer, or whatever it's called.



Right so its the freighter bumping into other ships. so full of it ... really Roll

Tal




I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2012-11-20 13:55:20 UTC
I'm sure you bumping up against the station because your ship is a tub of lard is CCP griefing you. Roll

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2012-11-20 13:58:18 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm sure you bumping up against the station because your ship is a tub of lard is CCP griefing you. Roll




You make no sense and your argument holds no water...


Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#67 - 2012-11-20 13:59:45 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


The Typhoon is still fairly small. Try a Machariel. It's twice the size, has more mass & moves faster by default. A 100MN SFI is also great.


Did this. Worked like a charm. It made my interface look comical but I'm getting used to that in EVE.

When I hit the Providence it went to 350 m/s or so, had full warp and never really changed direction much but it didn't warp either. Just sat there at full warp for 30 seconds or so. Then slowly reset the warp bar all the way back to 0 and reloaded it.

If you get a good bump in a freighter pilot can forget about going anywhere for a good five minutes.

Freighter Pilot in EVE graduated to Capital ship status. Dual box or go home.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#68 - 2012-11-20 14:02:39 UTC
Rats wrote:
Right so its the freighter bumping into other ships.
Yes. It's trivially easy to undock (and warp away) from Jita 4-4 without being bumped, even in a freighter.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2012-11-20 14:04:06 UTC
I literally undock and warp away from jita 4-4 multiple times a day in a freighter, without being bumed. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2012-11-20 14:12:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ra Jackson
Lorna Mood wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Lorna Mood wrote:
[quote=Lashenadeeka]Speed is squared, mass is not. Hence bumping is effective.




The simple truth is, it's allowed. Deal with it.


I am dealing with it... by questioning it :) I'm sure there are many good reasons why this works as intended but surely there is another side aswell? That's why it's a debate.

If you think trapping a freighter and getting it stuck thanks to the bump mechanic is that game feature working as intended then nobody is going to change your mind. It's still a legitimate topic for discussion though as some may disagree.


You know, CCP doesn't work this way. If you really want a base for discussion, get a few friends and bump the hell out of Jita 4-4 undock. I mean, only if you need a second opinion after CCP is flooded with petitions ;)

/Edit: If you want to catch the smartypants with undock safes wait in Perimeter on Jita gate Roll
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-11-20 14:18:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rats wrote:
Right so its the freighter bumping into other ships.
Yes. It's trivially easy to undock (and warp away) from Jita 4-4 without being bumped, even in a freighter.



oooh its little miss last word...

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-11-20 14:22:51 UTC
I know you may not like it, Rats/tal/whatever, but from what I've seen, a large majority of bumps at jita undock is because they either bump into the station because they're flying tubs of lard, or they're bumping off of other ships. I got tired of that, so I made an instant undock bookmark, and I have absolutely no problems whatsoever anymore.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#73 - 2012-11-20 14:31:29 UTC
Lashenadeeka wrote:
Speed is squared, mass is not. Hence bumping is effective.


Force=massxacceleration f=ma simple physics
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-11-20 14:34:58 UTC
not being able to bump off gate in low sec = boring ass low sec

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#75 - 2012-11-20 14:43:11 UTC
Rats wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Rats wrote:
Right so its the freighter bumping into other ships.
Yes. It's trivially easy to undock (and warp away) from Jita 4-4 without being bumped, even in a freighter.



oooh its little miss last word...

Tal

That's as may be, but he is right. Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#76 - 2012-11-20 14:56:52 UTC
You know everyone talks about emergent game play until it effects them. I don’t consider exploiting flawed or lack of programming to be emergent game play. Bumping is nothing more than taking advantage of poor programming to allow miner griefing and freighter ganking. CCP will not consider this a exploit because they lack the will or knowledge to change it and they don’t want to have to enforce it.

Bumping is a flawed game mechanic that I don’t see changing. Should they do something about it then my hats off to them. As it is now, it’s just another way to cheat the system cause grief and make money. This is EVE and I can either except it or I can unsub when I can’t except it any longer.

I am sure you will get all the people that will post here with their trolling crappy advise like always. You can do this or you could that blaaa blaaa blaa most of them don’t understand what happened even but they are more than willing to give their sheety advice.

Bottom line is you shouldn’t have to do this or do that to compensate for a broken game mechanic. The broken mechanic should be fixed not exploited and a blind eye turned by the developer that you pay your money to each month.

Flame on you parent basement dwelling trolls, flame on……
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-11-20 14:58:02 UTC
Bumping is used extensively in nullsec PVP, just FYI.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ghazu
#78 - 2012-11-20 15:06:11 UTC
89 is a good number for number of plexes dropped.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-11-20 15:08:28 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I know you may not like it, Rats/tal/whatever, but from what I've seen, a large majority of bumps at jita undock is because they either bump into the station because they're flying tubs of lard, or they're bumping off of other ships. I got tired of that, so I made an instant undock bookmark, and I have absolutely no problems whatsoever anymore.



I just don't like it when its used for ****'s and giggles, don't really mind if there is a valid reason behind it... IMHO


Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#80 - 2012-11-20 15:10:30 UTC
ISD Suvetar wrote:
Thread cleaned strenuously as per CCP Falcons instructions.

Please stay on the topic and not get into name calling and personal attacks; it's not helping the topic.

Thanks.


Good god you wiped out 6 pages. Here have a +1