Ships & Modules

TBH the more i think about it, the more it seems like a solution to the "Bubble + Hotdrop" equation that nullsec guys are using. I don't think jump-bridges or capital ships where ever intended to be so mobile - but they are. Now people run cruiser gangs or just go straight to capitals. Tier 3 BC's replace sniper BS now also. This module, being battleship only, feels like it's designed to give battleships a use again: Lots of EHP and damage, but without making them dead-weight the instant a cyno opens.

That the solo'ers with one or two T3 alts in deep safes or the ones that have a logistics/ECM alt standing by in addition to the T3 in case things goes sideways?

MJD will be good, provided they look at ongrid warping. The minimum distance needs to be increased to 200-250km to make room for MJD's to do their thing. Otherwise they will have no function whatsoever as long as any target can be warped to within 10-15s of hitting scan on probes.

"Warp scramblers can be used to disrupt the module."

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Infinipoint.

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I can see this module is being introduced to the game to mitigate some of the mistakes and legacy reatardiatorns CCP has put into the game which obsoleted BS's from most small-gang work. eg, T3 cruisers, tier 3 BC's, etc. The Target Spectrum Breaker was the last attempt to give battleships a fighting chance solo, but has turned out to be pre-gimped (kinda like web drones, like I've been saying for ages). Meanwhile CCP screwed the pooch majorly with the ASB's, creating a monster that has taken over the de rigeur fitting philosophy of everything, including Dominixes, Hyperions, Celestis' and yes, even Amarr BSs, which all wildly outperform with shield active tanks, thanks CCP.

So, we come to the MJD, which I could see going either way.

Sit 100km off gate in Blasterthron, Rokh, Hyperion, AC Mael with 2 x XL ASB's. Lets not **** about here, chaps, why not a Vindicator? You have a scout on the other side of the gate, who tells you what's coming and when they are jumping. If its too derp, you align out before the guys jump and you GTFO. If its squishable, you MJD 100km to gate and get to pwning.

Or, you roll a gang of BS's into an alpha fleet sitting 150km off gate, just turn around the other way and bam, you're now 250km away. Or 50km away, depending on whether you want flight or fright.

Or you are the sniper BS, 70km off a gate. You align out to a celestial, snipe a few idiots, let some hapless ceptor pilot attempt a warpin. Then bam, you're 170km off gate in the direction of a celestial, align out, gone.

Solo BS in lowsec? Well, either your foes have to get in neut range and go balls to the wall to get a scram, or they may as well not bother. You can be out of the fire in 10s.

You can also jump 100km away from your logi, and assplode before you get reps. That would be cool.

But all up, I can't see this as anything more than a workaround. The real problem is the combination of increasing speeds (OGB alts), lower sig radiuses (hello T3's), higher mobility (hello tier 3's) of newer ship classes versus the old, unchanged and un-buffed BS's and their gun and missile launcher parameters. Hell, the way the Vexor has turned out, competently flown it could easily take out a lot of BSs.

This combines, in many cases, to render BS weapons obsolete against the proliferate OGB boosted low-sig highly mobile ships rolling about these days. You can get equal tank in raw EHP, with greater maneuverability, higher base resists from a T3 cruiser, and in some cases, equal or better applied damage (Proteus blasters vs Hyperion blasters versus a cruiser, for example). Take a BS, and you have an atrocious align time, gay scan res, impotent weapons, a mediocre tank, useless slug in a bucket maneuverability, and half the time ship bonuses which help you carebear more than PVP. And then you get locked out of almost every FW plex that ever spawns, if you roll in FW. So why bother?

That's right. You get a shiny new module which allows you to automagically teleport around. If you metagame it properly with OGB alts, maybe you can make this more than a get gay quick module, or maybe you have blitzkrieg smartbomb on gate crap, or get to blitz out of bubbles crap...but the moment you're scrammed, your ship is as useless and fat and feeble as it was before.

Not impressed.

That could bring real chaos. ;-) But insta MJDing to 0 would be imho as hard as warping to 0 to enemy. Most of the time warping would be easier because you dont have to be exactly 100 km from enemy.

So only use i see in this module is adding a bit more GTFO ability to BSes in certain situations (no scrams on field.) Wich could change little bit only small gang warfare. Imho it will end up that well see only more scrams in small gang fleets and thats it.

More details, per the new Dev blog by CCP SoniClover:

Even though I'm some random guy who says meaningless things, from what I'm seeing this seems to be somewhat of a "blah" module. One-time use in a fight, then that mid-slot is useless for three minutes. There are other far better modules I'd put in a free mid-slot in PvP. Frankly, I don't think this module belongs in Eve since it seems very odd. I thought it was a joke when I saw this module getting worked on. It certainly won't make battleships better. I can only see it being useful in PvE when rats are over 100km away or if you need to get out of range of rats.

I think the development team could be putting their time to better use than working on this module, like balancing.

Well, what I'm seeing from the dev blog they won't be saved by their small balancing pass. They'll still have issues tracking (besides the battleships that have bonuses for tracking). They can't catch and will have a hell of a time hitting anything smaller than themselves. Their only purpose will be to destroy other battleships or to make isk by killing rats.

Gang of disco typhoons MJD's into the middle of a blob - hilarity ensues. Shame you cant adjust the range that it jumps to though - something more precise in terms of aiming would be good (rather than 100 km - that way!) One shot scripts in 10km increments perhaps (longer cycle time / sig hit for longer jumps, reverse for shorter)?

The one idea that scares the bejeezus out of me is the BS that pops in from 100k away... and starts unloading the rack of Smart Bombs. o.0