EVE General Discussion

Sovereignty != populated, see post above.

I dont think the transition is intimidating, it's a game FFS. The problem is the transition isn't fun.

Why isn't transitioning to, and eventually living in, null fun? Well, If I decide to go to null (OHGOD never again) I have a few options.

Option 1- Suck off to a giant alliance, basically become their slave for their **** empire that you couldn't care less about.

Option 2- Become a renter, which is basically option 1 with slighty more freedom.

Option 3- Push the ultra-rich power blocs out of their space. Just kidding that's virtually impossible.

IMO I think this can be fixed by making it EXTREMELY hard to hold vast amounts of space. How the hell can a 2000 man alliance hold 50 some systems (not actually numbers, just using them as an example). They should be able to hold 10 or 20 systems. Hell, I'd argue less than that would be nice.

Also, can we please significantly reduce the ability to project power (spool up times)? Jump Clones **** this up too.

Speaking as someone who has lived in 0.0 for most of his EVE career, I can tell you that you're missing a few options from the 0.0 menu.

This.

Such as?

I have never seen anybody say we need more people in High Sec or even Low Sec. Its always "We need more people to move to Nullsec." and it is always because nullsec dwellers seem to think its only about them and fail to realize that there are other aspects to EvE other than PvP. They also fail to realize that EvE is not only about PvP.

To improve nullsec and the flow of pilots out there a few things need to be changed:


1.) Mining needs to be fixed. It's barely profitable and highly dangerous in nullsec, so hardly anyone does it. This means any nullsec industry is reliant upon hisec minerals.

2.) POS and sov mechanics need to be improved. I'm not in logistics, but I hear people bitching all the time about how ****** the mechanics are.

3.) Ship rebalancing, and not just supercaps. The only caldari ships used in nullsec for PvP are blackbirds, drakes and occasionally scorpions. The coming hybrid rebalancing will hopefully improve this, as well as the lack of gallente ships in PvP. I originally trained caldari and having to train from the ground up practically just to PvP in nullsec really sucked. It would also help break some of the monotony in nullsec where you have a narrow field of fleet doctrines for alliance level ops.

4.) Improve the solo aspects of the game. You can either PvE or PvP solo. Solo PvP is either sitting on a bubble, or a solo roam, both of which are pretty boring. Only really good if you're in it for the killboard stats. PvE in general is just a morale killer, as it's so repetitive. Really, the only thing I can think of to improve the solo game is to expand upon exploration. There needs to be a non-combat solo alternative out there that can make you some money, though not as much as ratting, which pilots can do. People need a reason to log in, so if you provide a solo alternative, though less efficient at making isk, that someone can always do it should improve log in numbers. I haven't really thought of content examples or anything, but if you give someone something to do at all times, they're much more likely to play the game.

Just as you find boring sitting in hi sec making more and more isk I (and some others) find it boring sitting in lo sec scoring more and more kills for a killboard. Just sayin'. Everyone has different tastes and even though you don't have to like that fact you should at least acknowledge it.

To me, making isk is a hell of a lot more fun than prettying up a killboard..

High-sec isn't overpopulated to the 'waiting in line' point, it's overpopulated in terms of player levels. Jita, for example, is barely playable on low-end computers because there are so many people in-system at any given time. To spread people out a bit will diminish the pull on players' systems.

Lowsec and nullsec are empty, for the most part, because there's no real motivation to use them. As a result, fewer people are going into lowsec and nullsec, there are fewer shipments of the harder-to-find nullsec minerals on the market for high-end industry, and the market becomes saturated with easier-to-obtain/build products.

3. Surviving in 0.0 is supposed to be a challenge -- it was intended to be a lawless place, where you have to fight to keep what you've won. Right now, though, there's nobody out there to provide a fight, and it's fallen into a self-reinforcing cycle: nobody's out there, so the harder-to-obtain nullsec items get more and more costly. Since the demand for the item is there, but there's no supply, the market blossoms with ridiculous prices for those items.

in the end, spreading players out will lessen the overall system impact -- anyone remember the early days of WoW, and Lagforge/Ironlag? There were so many people in Ironforge, crowding around what was, essentially, the Alliance version of 'Jita' at the time, that the client slowed to a crawl.

Except the discussion that flows from the OP shows that you are absolutely incorrect, thereby making your post absolutely worthless.