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Phytoplankton Need Krill

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#1 - 2012-11-15 07:26:24 UTC
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Mr Pragmatic
#2 - 2012-11-15 07:40:14 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.



no tldr, didn't read, way to tldr. Also we mine all day because it makes us isk and supports the economy. deal with it. Cool

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#3 - 2012-11-15 07:47:42 UTC
too*

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Tinja Soikutsu
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-11-15 08:05:11 UTC
tldr carebears stop moaning at gankers and gankers stop moaning at carebares.

stldr less qq more pewpew/
Lutin Ballista
Ballista Investment Corp
#5 - 2012-11-15 08:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lutin Ballista
Galaxy Pig wrote:
They've concluded that we're .


Pot calling a kettle black and thats where the post lost all validity.

Galaxy Pig wrote:

But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.


I now feel better informed.

Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
tldr carebears stop moaning at gankers and gankers stop moaning at carebares.
/


But then what would the forum be used for?
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#6 - 2012-11-15 08:46:57 UTC
EVE is a hunting simulator and they're not phytoplankton - they're deer.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#7 - 2012-11-15 08:57:33 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
EVE is a hunting simulator and they're not phytoplankton - they're deer.

You don't just shoot at the water hoping for some phytoplankton killmails?

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#8 - 2012-11-15 09:06:43 UTC
GD is being James 315-ized. More and more foul, long wall of texts by the day.

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-11-15 09:18:12 UTC
OP could you put some spaces between your paragraphs it will make it easier to read before we stop reading after the first two lines
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Borascus
#10 - 2012-11-15 09:53:45 UTC
It's kind of like Jamyl Sarum all over this place, "We begin a new age of "2012'ing"" "The 2012'ing brought about lower mineral costs, new ship balances and now WE WILL Re-2012 HI-SEC, AGAIN"

But yea, killboards need padding so lures are out.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-11-15 09:55:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Basically, a retelling of something that hooded toon with bent head was flooding GD a month or two ago with. Your free time begs for mercy, OP.

Oh, and Tinja Soikutsu said it all.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Mr Pragmatic
#12 - 2012-11-15 11:32:15 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
too*



ncie cuonter agrmuent, you win.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#13 - 2012-11-15 11:39:12 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
EVE is a hunting simulator and they're not phytoplankton - they're deer.


i thought it was duck hunting, they being the ducks. and goons being the dog that runs off to collect the duck.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-11-15 11:43:09 UTC
QQ thread is QQ thread. Haven't read that wall of text, specially with same old boring stuff at the very first phrase.

Nothing new, nothing exciting and not even something to troll at...

You're bad and should feel bad because I'm leaving disappointed !

brb
Drakonium
Sublime Tactic
#15 - 2012-11-15 12:25:40 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.


This obsession you have with carebears can't be healthy.
Lashenadeeka
Qinglong Fleet
Jade Kirin Alliance
#16 - 2012-11-15 13:03:05 UTC
hurr im a badass shark ur all planktons rawr
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-15 13:06:49 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others..

Well, ain't that the truth.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-11-15 13:27:47 UTC
I, as the 1st member of the Church of the Holy Galaxy Pig (--P0RK--) doth attest to the truthishness of all she says, gobble gobble bacon and Amen. :)

Good post, i think you hit on something very very important in our understanding of the ways to the Bear.

Galaxy Pig wrote:
I
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life..


I honestly think that's it, and it's a mistake human being almost always make about people they don't like.

They see an action (especially an action against them) and they ask themselves "if that was me, why would I do that". The only answer they can come up with (that doesn't hurt their ego) is intentional Malice ie "that guy is just doing that to me because he's a fascist who doesn't like how i do things", when the truth may be as simple as the person being the nearest convenient target (or a target especially vulnerable to the kind of attack the attacker wants to use).

Some Miners and some other PVE'rs make themselves targets for these kinds of attack by being the type of person would crys/screams bloody murder in local, on blogs and on forums, screaming "playstyle violation!!!" is just a subconscious attempt to somehow save face.

One day their will be a stuff carebear at the Smithsonian (the exhibit will feature plastic hotpockets and ramen noodles and be set in a basement/cellar scene) and hopefully have an interactive screen nearby so school kids can read all of our research :) .
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#19 - 2012-11-15 13:28:33 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
EVE is a hunting simulator and they're not phytoplankton - they're deer.


Deer have enough sense to run away lol.....
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-11-15 14:09:33 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I've noticed a lot of speculation on these forums as to the motivation of highsec gankers. Many phytopklankton (carebears) seem to have it all figured out. They've concluded that we're sadists who are only out to ruin the gaming of others. I find this to be presumptuous and kinda rude. I don't even attempt to speculate as to what in god's name compels them to mine all day, but to each their own.
They are partial to personal attacks, projecting all their own subconscious insecurities upon us by calling us pathetic fat children with no friends and no life. They are quick to point out that highsec gankers are bottom-feeding, only one level removed from the bottom of the food chain. Keeping with the oceanic analogy that would make us Krill. I rather like that. I can live with being a krill, and admittedly I occasionally get swallowed by a whale. Though, it seems that the phytoplankton are much less secure with their position on the great space-food chain. (The bottom.) They struggle to accept it. They reject any rationale behind why people "pick on them", insisting instead that it must be for easy kills, tear harvesting, or due to some sort of personality disorder. Quite often this may be true, though I hesitate to diagnose people as sociopaths on the sole basis that they like exploding mackinaws. The phytoplankton seem to think that people should just leave them alone. I personally blame certain other (childrens) MMO's for instilling in them the idea that anyone in the game deserves to be "left alone".
I'm not going to go into the reasons why a safe highsec would be terrible for everyone, it's fairly obvious to most people. It would be fundamentally contradictory to the spirit and intent of EVE Online, and if you don't get that or disagree, I don't know what to tell ya. James 315, being the bottomless well of patience that he is, has graciously spelled it out in his manifestos and theMittani.com article.
So if nowhere in New Eden should be safe beyond the undock, then it falls on someone to keep it that way does it not? The lack of krill feeding in highsec because of some silly sense of ~e-honor~ thereby making it effectively safe would be as bad as if the phytoplankton got their way and CCP coded them safe. Therefor, someone's got to do it.
Like the ocean, a healthy and diverse evecosystem is dependent upon phytoplankton and krill. Now, prey are understandably resentful of predation, but I think if they were able to view their own horrible deaths objectively, they would see that the highsec ganker is in fact a noble creature, doing his job just like they do theirs.
Alright, I'm not gonna ask for a thank you the next time I blow up a noob in his first mining-frigate. In fact, I think since our two occupations are inherently adversarial, we should feel free to despise, demonize, and dehumanize each other. But let us ever bare in the back of our minds, that krill need phytoplankton, and phytoplankton need krill.
In conclusion, I'm the best person ever. Thank you for your time. Also, death to Gallente.


Yawn

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
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