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gfldex
#21 - 2011-10-19 01:58:59 UTC
CCP Dropbear wrote:
Hopefully one of those replies answers your question. P


So it's not about Joves at all? *wink* *wink*

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#22 - 2011-10-19 04:45:37 UTC
CCP Dropbear wrote:
As an example, one of the recent and ongoing events involves gathering ~30b of materials to build a research outpost in Eram. The even larger goal behind this is to, put simply, make other players aware of the storyline, and maybe even start to care about it. Srs bsns.

Hopefully one of those replies answers your question. P




Curious. Where/how was this notice of gathering 30B in materials announced/ roleplayed/ revealed? And who is in charge of this atm? Just seems interesting because despite saying you want to make other players aware, I'm not sure WHO is aware of this...


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Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#23 - 2011-10-19 09:33:37 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
CCP Dropbear wrote:
As an example, one of the recent and ongoing events involves gathering ~30b of materials to build a research outpost in Eram. The even larger goal behind this is to, put simply, make other players aware of the storyline, and maybe even start to care about it. Srs bsns.

Hopefully one of those replies answers your question. P




Curious. Where/how was this notice of gathering 30B in materials announced/ roleplayed/ revealed? And who is in charge of this atm? Just seems interesting because despite saying you want to make other players aware, I'm not sure WHO is aware of this...




via the arek'jaalan mailing list ingame

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Kasidis
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-10-19 14:35:00 UTC
The Jove do need to start becoming part of the game. They just sit there and take up space. We need some sort of interesting PvE "raid" into Jove space to recover some technology. This game is in dire need of PvE content. A lot of new ships and modules can come out of it too Big smile
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#25 - 2011-10-19 15:42:39 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
CCP Dropbear wrote:
As an example, one of the recent and ongoing events involves gathering ~30b of materials to build a research outpost in Eram. The even larger goal behind this is to, put simply, make other players aware of the storyline, and maybe even start to care about it. Srs bsns.

Hopefully one of those replies answers your question. P




Curious. Where/how was this notice of gathering 30B in materials announced/ roleplayed/ revealed? And who is in charge of this atm? Just seems interesting because despite saying you want to make other players aware, I'm not sure WHO is aware of this...




I'm taking part in Arek'Jalaan. Its fun. Mind you though, as Dropbear said, it is more scientific and focused on creation, not on blasting ships that much (at least not currently) and takes a lot of creativity to get into.

If that doesn't scare you away join the Arek'Jalaan chat. Dropbear himself (Hilen Tukoss) is there almost every day after 20:00 EVE time.

You can also mail me ingame and I'll forward you the introductionary message he sent when I asked about Arek'Jalaan.

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mkint
#26 - 2011-10-19 16:10:02 UTC
I'm not trying to troll here (as I often am pretty negative on these forums), but the EVE storyline is incredibly hard to follow. I mean yeah, there are the live events, and I've taken part in at least one of those, and I try to follow up on some of the stuff, but often it feels more like LARPing than storytelling. For example, this is the first time I've heard of "Arek'Jalaan" and I'm really not sure why I should care about who he is or what he's doing. I mean, people build outposts in nullsec every day... I'm not sure if the stuff is actually coming from the player economy, or if the completed thing will be a dockable thing or if it's just space decoration. And even if he succeeds, so what? Empire has lots of stations.

In other words, I love story and would love for the story to be more accessible and matter.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2011-10-19 16:21:30 UTC
I am aware.

That is pretty much the only thing that is important.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#28 - 2011-10-19 17:50:12 UTC
So within these forums:

Arek'Jalaan

is mentioned twice (now three times) ...

Can we get more? Help me lore up.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Carcosa Hali
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-10-19 18:58:05 UTC
I think reverse incursions refers to the Factions invading pirate space. (Concord/Amarr raiding Stain etc.) Would be excellent.

Apollo Gabriel wrote:
So within these forums:

Arek'Jalaan

is mentioned twice (now three times) ...

Can we get more? Help me lore up.



There's so much of it at this point, that you'd best be served here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan

Highlights include having a Blood Raider as head of the ethics committee, people doing research on a stolen gallente superweapon, and some guys interfacing with Rogue Drone hives... It's a wacky place.

But getting involved is as simple as subscribing to the mailing list and joining the channel: Arek'jaalan


CCP Dropbear wrote:
Standings affecting aggression mechanics would require some more work to make happen with our new skynet NPCs, so while it's on the radar, it's not low hanging fruit and can't be ninja'd into the current setup as a backdor for Pro-Sansha to run interference (we tried, though).


Thanks for trying. Smile
Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#30 - 2011-10-19 20:08:21 UTC
CCP Dropbear wrote:
As for big things coming beyond that, I referred in various panels back then about the second round of live events we'd be running. So a short plug of that: These events partly involve the Arek'Jaalan project that someone mentioned earlier. It's bigger because, where last time around you had massive fleet battles destroying eachother, this time around the task is creation and the scale of the job is much larger and more realistic. As an example, one of the recent and ongoing events involves gathering ~30b of materials to build a research outpost in Eram. The even larger goal behind this is to, put simply, make other players aware of the storyline, and maybe even start to care about it. Srs bsns.


Ok, I am a bit lost. I just fly to Eram system / Meinigefur Const / Metropolis Region / Sec status 0.8 and there is no research outpost. I do not know if:
1 - I am at wrong system.
2 - The outpost you are talking is a NPC station
3 - The outpost is a outpost, but is hide.
4 - ???

Sorry if i missundestand, but I really want to undestand what is going on.

Best post ever!
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#31 - 2011-10-19 20:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Aidan Brooder
mkint wrote:
I'm not trying to troll here (as I often am pretty negative on these forums), but the EVE storyline is incredibly hard to follow. I mean yeah, there are the live events, and I've taken part in at least one of those, and I try to follow up on some of the stuff, but often it feels more like LARPing than storytelling. For example, this is the first time I've heard of "Arek'Jalaan" and I'm really not sure why I should care about who he is or what he's doing. I mean, people build outposts in nullsec every day... I'm not sure if the stuff is actually coming from the player economy, or if the completed thing will be a dockable thing or if it's just space decoration. And even if he succeeds, so what? Empire has lots of stations.

In other words, I love story and would love for the story to be more accessible and matter.


Arek'Jalaan is not a person. So basically you show here you are talking about something which you know nothing about but already know you won't like it. Go back to pew-pew and the blues. Let others do what they like.

Actually, now I want to make an EVE band called "Pew-Pew and the blues". Thanks for that!

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#32 - 2011-10-19 20:24:37 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
mkint wrote:
I'm not trying to troll here (as I often am pretty negative on these forums), but the EVE storyline is incredibly hard to follow. I mean yeah, there are the live events, and I've taken part in at least one of those, and I try to follow up on some of the stuff, but often it feels more like LARPing than storytelling. For example, this is the first time I've heard of "Arek'Jalaan" and I'm really not sure why I should care about who he is or what he's doing. I mean, people build outposts in nullsec every day... I'm not sure if the stuff is actually coming from the player economy, or if the completed thing will be a dockable thing or if it's just space decoration. And even if he succeeds, so what? Empire has lots of stations.

In other words, I love story and would love for the story to be more accessible and matter.


Arek'Jalaan is not a person. So basically you show here you are talking about something which you know nothing about but already know you won't like it. Go back to pew-pew and the blues. Let others do what they like.

Actually, now I want to make an EVE band called "Pew-Pew and the blues". Thanks for that!



Dude you should re-read HIS post then re-read YOURS ...

He to me sounds genuinely confused and potentially interested.

You to me ... well let's keep it polite.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#33 - 2011-10-19 20:37:50 UTC
The Jovians renamed themselves DCF

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
mkint
#34 - 2011-10-19 20:46:20 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
mkint wrote:
I'm not trying to troll here (as I often am pretty negative on these forums), but the EVE storyline is incredibly hard to follow. I mean yeah, there are the live events, and I've taken part in at least one of those, and I try to follow up on some of the stuff, but often it feels more like LARPing than storytelling. For example, this is the first time I've heard of "Arek'Jalaan" and I'm really not sure why I should care about who he is or what he's doing. I mean, people build outposts in nullsec every day... I'm not sure if the stuff is actually coming from the player economy, or if the completed thing will be a dockable thing or if it's just space decoration. And even if he succeeds, so what? Empire has lots of stations.

In other words, I love story and would love for the story to be more accessible and matter.


Arek'Jalaan is not a person. So basically you show here you are talking about something which you know nothing about but already know you won't like it. Go back to pew-pew and the blues. Let others do what they like.

Actually, now I want to make an EVE band called "Pew-Pew and the blues". Thanks for that!

Ah, so it's my fault that even though I log in every single day, read the news every single day, get dev blogs delivered to my RSS reader, and generally try to keep up on what goes on in the game, that whatever hooks there are to this arek'jalaan not-a-dude are hidden in someone's closet. The last thing I heard in the news that I assume had something to do with this storyline is along the lines of "some scientist did something inconsequential." Well, to quote from my original comment: "so what?" I want to care, I want it to be interesting. I love story, which is weird because it's something EVE is definitely NOT known for.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Carcosa Hali
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2011-10-20 12:31:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Carcosa Hali
mkint wrote:
Ah, so it's my fault that even though I log in every single day, read the news every single day, get dev blogs delivered to my RSS reader, and generally try to keep up on what goes on in the game, that whatever hooks there are to this arek'jalaan not-a-dude are hidden in someone's closet. The last thing I heard in the news that I assume had something to do with this storyline is along the lines of "some scientist did something inconsequential." Well, to quote from my original comment: "so what?" I want to care, I want it to be interesting. I love story, which is weird because it's something EVE is definitely NOT known for.


Nevermind that guy, here is what you seek.. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#36 - 2011-10-20 12:38:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ammzi
mkint wrote:



Ah, so it's my fault that even though I log in every single day, read the news every single day, get dev blogs delivered to my RSS reader, and generally try to keep up on what goes on in the game, that whatever hooks there are to this arek'jalaan not-a-dude are hidden in someone's closet. The last thing I heard in the news that I assume had something to do with this storyline is along the lines of "some scientist did something inconsequential." Well, to quote from my original comment: "so what?" I want to care, I want it to be interesting. I love story, which is weird because it's something EVE is definitely NOT known for.


*hugs mkint*

Don't mind that guy. He sounds like a douche Big smile
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2011-10-20 13:53:22 UTC
CCP Dropbear wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Ok they are looking into the possibility of expanding Pirate Incursions into other factions and possibly getting them involved in the Events. They also want the other Faction versions to be completely different then Sansha's if they decide to implement it. They also want to do things with your standing towards the Nation like the Sansha's not shooting you above a certain standing to help pro Sansha's take sides. The upside down new Incursions the OP is talking about are left ambiguous.


Since I'm not really sure of the question even after watching the recording, I'll try cover the various bases. The above is a decent summary. These are things we'd like to do and have put some preliminary thinking into. Incursions are delivered by a new "tale" system, and it could do a lot more if we expanded it out. Incursions are just one very particular way to use it. Talk of upside down incursions is Headfirst having some fun, if that's not obvious. P

Standings affecting aggression mechanics would require some more work to make happen with our new skynet NPCs, so while it's on the radar, it's not low hanging fruit and can't be ninja'd into the current setup as a backdor for Pro-Sansha to run interference (we tried, though).

As for big things coming beyond that, I referred in various panels back then about the second round of live events we'd be running. So a short plug of that: These events partly involve the Arek'Jaalan project that someone mentioned earlier. It's bigger because, where last time around you had massive fleet battles destroying eachother, this time around the task is creation and the scale of the job is much larger and more realistic. As an example, one of the recent and ongoing events involves gathering ~30b of materials to build a research outpost in Eram. The even larger goal behind this is to, put simply, make other players aware of the storyline, and maybe even start to care about it. Srs bsns.

Hopefully one of those replies answers your question. P


That's actually something REALLY interesting, but I have no idea how to plough through all the different kinds of information regarding this. There really should be some link with the immersion project, the CQ screen, mission journals, mails etc to make more people aware of this and make/give people the oppurtunity to help out on this even if it is just donation a bunch of carbon to build an outpost.

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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#38 - 2011-10-20 15:26:09 UTC
mkint wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
mkint wrote:
I'm not trying to troll here (as I often am pretty negative on these forums), but the EVE storyline is incredibly hard to follow. I mean yeah, there are the live events, and I've taken part in at least one of those, and I try to follow up on some of the stuff, but often it feels more like LARPing than storytelling. For example, this is the first time I've heard of "Arek'Jalaan" and I'm really not sure why I should care about who he is or what he's doing. I mean, people build outposts in nullsec every day... I'm not sure if the stuff is actually coming from the player economy, or if the completed thing will be a dockable thing or if it's just space decoration. And even if he succeeds, so what? Empire has lots of stations.

In other words, I love story and would love for the story to be more accessible and matter.


Arek'Jalaan is not a person. So basically you show here you are talking about something which you know nothing about but already know you won't like it. Go back to pew-pew and the blues. Let others do what they like.

Actually, now I want to make an EVE band called "Pew-Pew and the blues". Thanks for that!

Ah, so it's my fault that even though I log in every single day, read the news every single day, get dev blogs delivered to my RSS reader, and generally try to keep up on what goes on in the game, that whatever hooks there are to this arek'jalaan not-a-dude are hidden in someone's closet. The last thing I heard in the news that I assume had something to do with this storyline is along the lines of "some scientist did something inconsequential." Well, to quote from my original comment: "so what?" I want to care, I want it to be interesting. I love story, which is weird because it's something EVE is definitely NOT known for.


Yeah, might have been a little harsh on that one. My apologies. ;)

Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x
Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#39 - 2011-10-20 21:35:13 UTC
mkint wrote:
Aidan Brooder wrote:
mkint wrote:
I'm not trying to troll here (as I often am pretty negative on these forums), but the EVE storyline is incredibly hard to follow. I mean yeah, there are the live events, and I've taken part in at least one of those, and I try to follow up on some of the stuff, but often it feels more like LARPing than storytelling. For example, this is the first time I've heard of "Arek'Jalaan" and I'm really not sure why I should care about who he is or what he's doing. I mean, people build outposts in nullsec every day... I'm not sure if the stuff is actually coming from the player economy, or if the completed thing will be a dockable thing or if it's just space decoration. And even if he succeeds, so what? Empire has lots of stations.

In other words, I love story and would love for the story to be more accessible and matter.


Arek'Jalaan is not a person. So basically you show here you are talking about something which you know nothing about but already know you won't like it. Go back to pew-pew and the blues. Let others do what they like.

Actually, now I want to make an EVE band called "Pew-Pew and the blues". Thanks for that!

Ah, so it's my fault that even though I log in every single day, read the news every single day, get dev blogs delivered to my RSS reader, and generally try to keep up on what goes on in the game, that whatever hooks there are to this arek'jalaan not-a-dude are hidden in someone's closet. The last thing I heard in the news that I assume had something to do with this storyline is along the lines of "some scientist did something inconsequential." Well, to quote from my original comment: "so what?" I want to care, I want it to be interesting. I love story, which is weird because it's something EVE is definitely NOT known for.


this whole thing was kicked off with some news items, so yes, it is your fault

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Chum Tea
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2011-10-20 23:46:53 UTC
Just found out about all this purely by chance. I had a look at the wiki page and found it quite interesting. All this event stuff should get way more attention. It's just too easy to miss. The eve news aren't exactly "in your face" if you're just a regular eve player.
All these events could really help immersion if only more people knew about them.
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