EVE General Discussion

I'd also love to see Tech 3 industrials with modular cargo holds too, so you could choose what size hauler you wanted by adding compartments, and could even have unscannable smuggling compartments, and specific compartments for hauling assembled ships.

Until CCP shows me they can actually make T3 cruisers balanced (as in they're all viable in their own way while not stomping T2s into the ground) I'm very much against any new type of T3s.

Tech 3's are too good at too many things, they make T2 cruisers almost pointless.

Tech 3 should be jack of all trades, but master of none.

Tech 2 should be specialized into specific roles and be the best at performing those roles.

To me, arguing about the cost of T3 and T2 in the current state and using that as a reason for gap is pointless, as the current price of the ships reflects the ships current performance. If you were to boost Tech 2 the market would soon start to reflect those changes and the prices of those ships would go up.

Tbh there's some good discussion going on here, and some valid points raised.

(Including the fact it would be a bad idea for me to balance ships, because the Megathron would be horridly overpowered, able to fit 600 neutron blaster cannons, and to hell with everything else )

The fact of the matter is that you can argue the point that a lot of hulls are overpowered in EVE. Sometimes you just find that sweet spot, with an awesome fitting and it makes a hull feel imbalanced.

For example, for a long time back in the day the Domi was overpowered as hell, but it wasn't due to the ship, it was due to the combination of NOS + ECM, then more recently we've had a FOTM (more like FOTY) with the Hurricane, because it's very versatile, and now the Tornado, because of the same fundamental benefits to the hull.

I think the main problem right now lies not with the T3 hulls or subsystems themselves, but what people can fit to them and the way some modules work. I suppose the interaction of certain subsystems with eachother could be looked into as well too.

T3 itself doesn't seem to bad to me personally, but when you combine that with, just for example, gang links that work off grid and a covert ops subsystem, plus the ability to make it nigh on unprobeable by screwing with sensor strength, it makes for a really off balance fitting, not due to the hull itself, but due to what can be fitted to the hull with a certain arrangement of subsystems.

Personally I'm all for T3, and I'm all for more T3 in various classes of ships, not just cruisers. I'd love to see frigates, battleships and battle cruisers too, but they'd need to fill a useful niche that isn't already catered for.

I'd also love to see Tech 3 industrials with modular cargo holds too, so you could choose what size hauler you wanted by adding compartments, and could even have unscannable smuggling compartments, and specific compartments for hauling assembled ships.

There are so many potential options for T3, and so many things we could do with them, but then again, this whole post is just my personal opinion and in no way a reflection of what might be in the pipeline, just to be clear.

Tech 3's are too good at too many things, they make T2 cruisers almost pointless.

Tech 3 should be jack of all trades, but master of none.

Tech 2 should be specialized into specific roles and be the best at performing those roles.

To me, arguing about the cost of T3 and T2 in the current state and using that as a reason for gap is pointless, as the current price of the ships reflects the ships current performance. If you were to boost Tech 2 the market would soon start to reflect those changes and the prices of those ships would go up.

How about this.
If you have a "personal opinion" you want to express, you do it with one of your chars that does not start with "CCP".
Posting in so many threads with your CCP Falcon char is wrong.

At best, it is annoying to jump to a dev comment only to find some throwaway one line comment by you.
At worst, it can be extremely misleading since many people who read a post by anyone with a CCP moniker believe that CCP employee is expressing an official CCP response, not "their personal opinion".

So stop doing it, and use one of your regular chars when you want to comment in a thread, unless you are stating a sanctioned CCP response on an issue.

CCP Falcon says things that are right and proper rebutting dinsdale pirahna.

ok remove isk from the equation .. do you think that T3's stomp on the majority of T2 ships in the game?