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WAR - Probably been mentioned ALOT
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cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#1 - 2012-11-09 22:11:07 UTC
I wanted a specific moon in high sec.

I war decced the corp that had the pos, removed it and put my own up.

The corp the joined DEC shield.

I am now in a mutual war with a massive alliance with no way to end it.

Is this how the game mechanic is supposed to work? Am i now stuck in a war FOREVER?! surely this is broken??

Please no trolling, it's a real question.

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Phizban
The Needs Of The Few
#2 - 2012-11-09 22:18:35 UTC
Haha
Clystan
Binaerie Heavy Industries
#3 - 2012-11-09 22:19:35 UTC
What's all this fuss about war decs? Haven't heard anything about it.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#4 - 2012-11-09 22:22:36 UTC
Close your corp and make a new one. It was a horrible name anyway.
Thanks alot Dec Shield.
Yabba Addict
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-11-09 22:23:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Yabba Addict
It is broken, that's why Dec Shield are doing this, to try to get the devs to fix it....again. Look at it this way, at least you're contributing to a good cause P
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#6 - 2012-11-09 22:29:13 UTC
Phizban wrote:
Haha


Yeah, I was wondering when we would hear from the captured corps on here.

Nice work bro, dont panic. You are stuck, and war decs are broken. Close corp, open new one, don't grief. Stay peachy!!!
cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#7 - 2012-11-09 22:33:00 UTC
It's not a massive issue. Just a war I don't necessarily want.

So this is the game mechanic working properly?

Recycling corps is not allowed and I could face disciplinary action... as well i don't want to leave this corp, and don't think i should have to.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-11-09 22:36:42 UTC
For the purposes of taking down POSes, Dec Shield is easily bypassed by forming a new corporation specifically for the war dec. Put your DPS in that corporation, take down the POS, disband the corporation.

Dec Shield is great. It turns out that a lot of folks starting wardecs actually don't want targets that shoot back.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-09 22:39:06 UTC
Peniz inc...

eh huh huh huh

CCP has no sense of humour.
cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#10 - 2012-11-09 22:39:54 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Dec Shield is great. It turns out that a lot of folks starting wardecs actually don't want targets that shoot back.


You're probably right. If I want to war dec A that shouldn't mean having to fight B, C, D, E, F... etc. as well!!

DEC shield seems a bit like an exploit to me. Obviously that's not how CCP intented it to be. The only answer to ending the war shouldnt be ending the corp. That's recycling corps and a load the server doesn't need!

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Inzax
#11 - 2012-11-09 22:40:28 UTC
cheese monkey wrote:
It's not a massive issue. Just a war I don't necessarily want.

So this is the game mechanic working properly?

Recycling corps is not allowed and I could face disciplinary action... as well i don't want to leave this corp, and don't think i should have to.


I for one would not want to leave my peniz either. Stiffen up and show some staying power.
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-11-09 22:43:15 UTC
It is supposed to be if you start a war and the other party wants to keep the war, you are stuck.
It is supposed to be if you have a war and join an alliance, that war spreads to the alliance.

It is working properly however it is unknown if the combination of those two rules ie Dec Shield is working as intended.


The bottom line is that you have to play the game with the rules in place no matter how dumb they might be so either tough it out or disband/recreate your corp
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-11-09 22:43:42 UTC
yes this has been mentioned alot, dec shield alt. moving on
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-11-09 22:45:44 UTC
Casirio wrote:
yes this has been mentioned alot, dec shield alt. moving on

He's no decshield alt.

I saw the mail of his attempt to surrender ...
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#15 - 2012-11-09 22:48:53 UTC
It's being changed come Retribution. There's a post about it from CCP Tallest.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#16 - 2012-11-09 22:50:12 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
It's being changed come Retribution. There's a post about it from CCP Tallest.



Finally... 11 posts in and something actually useful.

Thanks

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-11-09 22:51:48 UTC
Don't worry friend. Goons were trapped too so now CCP is going to fix it.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#18 - 2012-11-09 22:56:53 UTC
...and here's the DevPost.

The only thing changing is after a war has been declared to be mutual (say, by DecShield) after a week the aggressor will have a button to end the war. This gives attackers even more incentive, and is a good change imho.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-11-09 22:58:23 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Don't worry friend. Goons were trapped too so now CCP is going to fix it.


We come to the rescue of high sec once again.
Thomas Gallant
Quafe Company Courier Shipping
#20 - 2012-11-09 23:05:36 UTC
"You're probably right. If I want to war dec A that shouldn't mean having to fight B, C, D, E, F... etc. as well!! "

I think this is meant to be done by the Hired Merc system, so while while this type of thing can be done for the defending corp, there will at least be costs and limits placed on it. That's not to say the aggressor can't hire allies too, but it has to be done manually I think, paying the allied corp to war dec your target too, instead of through a set-up system.
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