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EVE is getting DARK and EMPTY

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Orkasm
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-11-09 13:44:31 UTC
You cant kill that which is already dead.
Dar Manic
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-11-09 13:49:56 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
So... EVE is dying thread?

Apparently forums too. :(


Just GD. CCP are taking all the good threads and hiding them somewhere else in an attempt to make GD as boring as possible.


There are good ones?

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.

Lipbite
Express Hauler
#43 - 2012-11-09 15:01:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Prepare for even lesser numbers in following three weeks because

1) November, 13 - Rift: Storm Legion release (Rift leveling and story are fun despite boring PvE rading end-game a.k.a. "endless deaths during dungeon bosses encounters");

2) November, 15 - SWTOR goes F2P (surely worth checking - stories are fun);

3) November, 20 - Planetside 2 release. Game is so good I can't return to EVE yet (made it into beta few days ago) - and I don't even like FPS genre.

But I'm sure CCP will use their usual magic (a.k.a. "2 months for $19.99") in December to raise online numbers.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-11-09 15:14:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jame Jarl Retief
Arduemont wrote:
Another person posting before they've done their research. Subs go up every year like clockwork. Eve is not dying, subs are not going down, traffic is not going down. Take the time to look this stuff up before deciding to post an "Eve is dying" thread.


As the saying goes, "there's lies, darn lies, and then there are statistics".

EVE subs go up year after year? Great. But guess what? Gamer population in general goes up year after year as well. If gamer population, on average, is going up year after year, it could easily account for growing number of subscribers. Game population numbers are creeping up across the board, in most games.

Further, if you think about it, the growing number of subs could be attributed to alt accounts. As players get deeper into the game, they often run into a wall where they can't meaningfully advance on one account, and require an alt to run whatever secondary function is needed (scanning alt, salvaging alt, logistics alt, whatever). This also could account for "growth" of subscriptions, while the actual number of human subscribers could be same or lower. We just don't know. Further, there's no way for us to know this, only CCP does. And do you think they'd flat out come out and tell us how many unique players there are in the game?

Traffic not going down is nice. But it's not going up significantly either. When newer games have have between 400k (GW2) and 1 million (WoW) concurrent users, and EVE has 29-45k depending on when you play, it's not exactly something that shouts "success" from the rooftops.

Dying? No, probably not. Stagnating? I'd say so. And has been for years. It badly needs something to shake it up. And miniscule changes or tweaks to antiquated mechanics aren't going to do it.
Bart Starr
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#45 - 2012-11-09 15:21:14 UTC
Hmmm. Lets see.

-Barge buff handed over the ice belts to automated scripts.
-Impending Crimewatch signals a change in core philosophy, so no expectation the game will 'improve'.
-ISD-infested forums, means arguing online is no longer fun, and threads are no longer interesting to read.
-Lack of a new Apocrypha in years.

But my time out of EVE has been well spent, so no worries.
NickyYo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-11-09 15:25:46 UTC
Bart Starr wrote:
Hmmm. Lets see.

-Barge buff handed over the ice belts to automated scripts.
-Impending Crimewatch signals a change in core philosophy, so no expectation the game will 'improve'.
-ISD-infested forums, means arguing online is no longer fun, and threads are no longer interesting to read.
-Lack of a new Apocrypha in years.

But my time out of EVE has been well spent, so no worries.


^ THIS.
People go on forums to troll and have fun else why go on the forums but to talk about ponies in space and tips?
The general discussion is just a new features and ideas section.

The ISD's are ruining the last bit of fun in this game, i am holding on, waiting for my corp to come active again, i am basically paying to train skills and post on forums.

Forums are no longer fun so i might quit, i haz no stuffz.

..

NickyYo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-11-09 15:26:30 UTC
Lipbite wrote:

3) November, 20 - Planetside 2 release. Game is so good I can't return to EVE yet (made it into beta few days ago) - and I don't even like FPS genre.


I got an invite to BETA too, not downloaded it yet though..

..

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-11-09 15:31:27 UTC
The only thing dyeing around seems to be some players will to log in on forums or in game.

Why? -Ho why???

brb

Oops Ididitagain
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-11-09 15:34:35 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Prepare for even lesser numbers in following three weeks because

1) November, 13 - Rift: Storm Legion release (Rift leveling and story are fun despite boring PvE rading end-game a.k.a. "endless deaths during dungeon bosses encounters");

2) November, 15 - SWTOR goes F2P (surely worth checking - stories are fun);

3) November, 20 - Planetside 2 release. Game is so good I can't return to EVE yet (made it into beta few days ago) - and I don't even like FPS genre.

But I'm sure CCP will use their usual magic (a.k.a. "2 months for $19.99") in December to raise online numbers.



Oops ™, A really horrid Nastradamus Alert.

Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-11-09 15:51:49 UTC
Oops Ididitagain wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
Prepare for even lesser numbers in following three weeks because

1) November, 13 - Rift: Storm Legion release (Rift leveling and story are fun despite boring PvE rading end-game a.k.a. "endless deaths during dungeon bosses encounters");

2) November, 15 - SWTOR goes F2P (surely worth checking - stories are fun);

3) November, 20 - Planetside 2 release. Game is so good I can't return to EVE yet (made it into beta few days ago) - and I don't even like FPS genre.

But I'm sure CCP will use their usual magic (a.k.a. "2 months for $19.99") in December to raise online numbers.



Oops ™, A really horrid Nastradamus Alert.



He's not entirely wrong though. I mean, speaking from personal point of view, there's quite a few other games to be added to this list. For instance, also November 20th, is the new Hitman game. Considering how long it's been since the last such title, I'm planning to take some time off to play that one for sure.

Another personal favourite, Far Cry 3, is coming Dec 4th. I wasn't that crazy about Far Cry 2 (OK, frankly I felt it sucked!), but the original game I re-played every winter just for the sake of beautiful palm trees, golden sandy beaches and clear blue water...and shooting mercs in the head. And Far Cry 3 promises to be a lot like the original game, only improved in many ways.

Also not on the list is the reboot of Darkfall on Nov 20th. I played the original, and am somewhat curious to see what the reboot is like.

And that's on top of generic crap titles we get every year, like the new Call of Duty and the new Assassin's Creed.

Personally I don't see myself playing EVE until late into December, or most likely next year, just because of these games I've listed. And I know quite a few people whose gaming habits are about the same.

So he's not entirely off with his predictions.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#51 - 2012-11-09 16:32:52 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
GD died when ISDs came in and started heavily modding the forum. Now it's not even interesting. Only if you do a dumb "Like" thread will it be left alone.


agreed.

if the thread goes remotely off topic due to the nature of what a dialogue is, they start getting a bit happy with the edit and delete buttons.

That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

BlackCobalt
#52 - 2012-11-09 16:33:41 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
From a high point of up to 50k people online at a time, its now slowly ,but steadily sliding down to a peak of around 30k and normally less than 20k online at a time.....
It even dropped down to less than 7000 yesterday 9AM.......

Is it Sandy or is it me , or is is EvE who ceased to tease ?
Where is everyone?



I wouldn't worry about it. The numbers always bounce around people are doing christmas shopping and busy until the new year. After the new year ppl stay in more during winter months the numbers willl increase then.
Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-11-09 16:37:42 UTC
Winter is coming™
NickyYo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-11-09 16:41:19 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
BlackCobalt wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
From a high point of up to 50k people online at a time, its now slowly ,but steadily sliding down to a peak of around 30k and normally less than 20k online at a time.....
It even dropped down to less than 7000 yesterday 9AM.......

Is it Sandy or is it me , or is is EvE who ceased to tease ?
Where is everyone?



I wouldn't worry about it. The numbers always bounce around people are doing christmas shopping and busy until the new year. After the new year ppl stay in more during winter months the numbers willl increase then.


Yea well.. the same thing was said about the summer holidays and it still didn't pick up after it, same was also said about nullsec large scale sov wars which is now dead, we are in a trend.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

According to the graph, there is a lower average online than this time last year, and we are still to approach the chistmas break trend..

Eve has been declining for more than a yea now, people like you are denial posting sh1te like that.

..

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#55 - 2012-11-09 16:42:34 UTC
Quote:
Now it seems to me that people are slowly coming back to EVE since CCP is focused on internet spaceships.


This game is slowly dieing. It beginned in 2003.
Spurty
#56 - 2012-11-09 16:49:31 UTC
A lot of theory crafting going on here

So many distractions out there for some of us.

Me personally:

- soccer season just ended and I'm a bit wiped from 14 hours physical work still (don't get old kids)
- natural selection 2 released (and recently the combat mode). Hours lost and only feels like 15 mins
- the secret world (not for everybody, but I'm thoroughly entertained when I'm faced with a puzzle).
- various other minor and lower player count multiplayer games (counter strike, the hidden, Minecraft etc)

Eve is best enjoyed when you can actually string more than 2 hours together with no breaks. Right now, don't have that time until really late at night.

It's not really dying for me, so much as having matured to be savored in quality doses rather than a soup of the day.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
#57 - 2012-11-09 17:05:54 UTC
Of course Eve is dark and empty its set in space Roll its not meant to be warm and fluffly

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.

Benilopax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-11-09 17:07:11 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
BlackCobalt wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
From a high point of up to 50k people online at a time, its now slowly ,but steadily sliding down to a peak of around 30k and normally less than 20k online at a time.....
It even dropped down to less than 7000 yesterday 9AM.......

Is it Sandy or is it me , or is is EvE who ceased to tease ?
Where is everyone?



I wouldn't worry about it. The numbers always bounce around people are doing christmas shopping and busy until the new year. After the new year ppl stay in more during winter months the numbers willl increase then.


Yea well.. the same thing was said about the summer holidays and it still didn't pick up after it, same was also said about nullsec large scale sov wars which is now dead, we are in a trend.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

According to the graph, there is a lower average online than this time last year, and we are still to approach the chistmas break trend..

Eve has been declining for more than a yea now, people like you are denial posting sh1te like that.


Comparing averages, we are only a tiny bit down on last year's pre Crucible population. It will really all depend on the winter patch and population boost.

...

Alavaria Fera
Imperial Shipment
#59 - 2012-11-09 17:33:54 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
same was also said about nullsec large scale sov wars which is now dead, we are in a trend.

Tell me about the large scale sov wars ....

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#60 - 2012-11-09 17:41:29 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
same was also said about nullsec large scale sov wars which is now dead, we are in a trend.

Tell me about the large scale sov wars ....



He probably should have said "No one cares about Null anymore..." Cool


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