EVE General Discussion

Yes, it has nothing to do with the near limitless safety of high sec and the ability of people to mine endlessly without interuption. It has nothing to do with thousands upon thousands upon thousands of ships flying around high sec and not getting blown up in enough of a quantity to influence the high sec economy.

It's got nothing to do with pyrite being in nearly limitless demand, and scordite being present pretty much everywhere; ready and available to mine afk with no worries about losing a ship.

Obviously mining scordite in high sec has everything to do with null.

Yes, thats what Nullsec is like. Glad you see the problem.



The OP was about the low value of 0.0 ore. Reading comprehension is your friend.

Don't worry ccp are changing what ore you can finde where... Maybe you will only be able to mine veld in HS soon.

I thought this was a nerf titans thread

And Local.

Not going to happen anymore. Its too expensive to run an interdiction that would make an impact these days so you can look forwards to a flood of max yeild bots destroying your mineral prices. They have already gutted the ice market.

Natsett's right on the money here. I'll refer anyone interested to a previous thread on this matter, particularly my amateur-hour analysis of the mineral basket and the pressures on ore supplies. It is worth noting that all mineral supplies are now done by people who are actively engaged in mining. No longer do you get minerals from blowing up NPCs.

What it boils down to is that Pyerite specifically is required in vast quantities, and securing stocks of that mineral requires vast quantities of Scordite to be mined in order to keep up with supply. There are no other convenient sources of large quantities of Pyerite.

CCP really needs to look at rebalancing ores. Looking at the ore-to-minerals refining chart it appears that simple changes are all that are required, such as removing Nocxium from Pyroxeres refining batches and replacing it with a few hundred Pyerite and a little extra Mexallon. Removing the limitless supply of Nocxium from hisec belts will (nearly instantly) boost null and low industry. Of course, what will actually happen when CCP gets around to rebalancing ores is likely to be a complete shake-up of how the mining activity works.

Yeah that's how the mechanics work in nullsec. You anchor a TCU and the minute it onlines, a magical laser beam just blows up any neutrals that come into your space. Didn't you know?

Nullsec is "safe" because we make it that way, and we keep it that way. It doesn't happen by magic. It doesn't happen because of an artificial CCP-provided mechanic like concord. It happens by people reporting neutrals, setting up camps at choke points, actively patrolling the space and showing zero tolerance for neutrals, day and night. Frankly we deserve peace and quiet. The proof is, the minute you no longer deserve it, you lose it.

What do the carebears in high sec do to keep themselves "safe"? Most of them don't even bother to check local until they are taking damage...

The idea that null should have 1/3 of the players and low 1/3 and high 1/3 is wrong. At least as far as economics of eve work.

I would have to say working as designed by CCP. The reason null is not attractive to more players, economically, is because null already has too many economic players to meet the demands of eve's markets. And all of that moon goo is already occupied. That is where the money is in null.

The only other non economic reason to be in null is for combat that will not hurt high sec standings like FW does.
Combat for the sake of combat is fun but it drains isk. Without a good local source of isk it is hard to make a home in null just for this reason alone. But FW does supply enough isk to support a combat career. That is where the PvP players are going in larger numbers these days.

Simple solution: buff up Spodumain with low-end minerals so that it's worth ~85% of what Crokite is

Suddently those massive spodroids in the mining anomalies because useful and at least not utterly worthless to mine. Mining becomes popular in 0.0, and low-end minerals get supplied locally. 0.0 Industry becomes slightly less impractical. Tea and medals all round.