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2,25 BILLION PRICE CONTEST *** WINNERS ANNOUNCED - SEE PAGE #3 ***

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sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#1 - 2012-11-07 18:25:24 UTC  |  Edited by: sinqlaison
Who am I?

My name is Sinqlaison, supercapital (pack) producer, see my main sales thread. I need your business ideas and am willing to pay well for them.

ArrowPrice

1 billion ISK for the the best idea to be paid out in Dec-1. The #2 'runner up' idea earns 500 mln ISK, and #3 gets 250mln ISK. I will be the judge of who the winners are and publish that in this thread. In case you have some concerns whether I will pay up, this is the second time I run this contest. The previous time was Idea contest October 2011 when I awarded 5+ billion ISK for the best 9 ideas.

If I get ideas as strong as last time I can decide to pay out more (as I did last time, when I paid out 3-4 times what I had promised). For those curious, I implemented 3 out of the 9 price winning ideas from the October-2011 contest, investing over 500 bln in the process.

ArrowBackground & context

For my current business I employ some 3.5 trillion ISK in terms of titan BPOs/BPCs, capital construction BPOs/BPCs, cash, POS & fuel, capital construction components, and some unnamed other businesses (you may guess which ;-)

ArrowHowever, I expect to have another 300 bln ISK at hand in 3 months and need plans to invest that.

What I believe in is investment opportunities that provide a sustainable advantage. Requiring massive capital is a good basis for providing sustainable advantage as there are limited people/corporations/alliances in Eve who can muster 100's of billions to invest. I view it like Shell or Exxon who can sink 13 bln dollar in a new LNG operations, they will be able to reap a nice rent thereafter - if they manage the political risks well. Am looking for similar ideas in Eve as well.

My constraint is time. As I am 1 person, not a big alliance, any idea must be executable with limited effort. Capital is no issue, time is.

ArrowYour idea

If you are interested to participate in the contest - post your idea here, or post a short note and write me in game. Your post here should then just say 'Idea on XYZ - sent you mail in game". That way you signify you participate, without spilling all the beans.

ArrowIdea description

In your post here, or your mail in game, please describe the nature of the business, the way it creates value, what investment is needed and wy you think it will create sustainable advantage

ArrowFun ideas

Obviously we expect a few ideas like "donate it to me and I will pay you the double amount in 6 months" and the like. They are welcome too, though not likely to win a price

Arrow Date of announcement of winners

Will be December-1


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May the best idea(s) win !!

[u]AAA[/u]

sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#2 - 2012-11-07 18:25:37 UTC
reserved

[u]AAA[/u]

sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#3 - 2012-11-07 18:25:45 UTC
reserved

[u]AAA[/u]

Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-11-07 18:58:52 UTC
The Orca will be losings its ability to transport items hidden in its corp hangar bay soon (with the change to fleet hangars) as well as items dropping from the new hangars. This suggests that Orca's will soon become more interesting targets and unable to safely transport high value items. It will now be viable / profitable for gankers

This doesn't mean Orca's will become less used because realistically people will still need to transport items and the Orca will continue to be the most viable transport ship based on training time, price, features, storage space and tank.

This means that the current supply and manufacturing of Orca's will need to increase dramatically. The demand for the ships and as well as the BPO's will increase dramatically to meet the demands.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-07 19:05:08 UTC
Also I wanted to verify if you are specifically looking for ideas for you to invest isk into, or ideas that you yourself will be planning on doing yourself. Your post suggests either possibility, but to give you the best ideas I have thought about or have planned doing myself requires knowing specifically if you are looking to invest into projects, run projects yourself, or looking for partners to work with.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-11-07 19:34:43 UTC
Fund a burn the trade hubs, I can guarantee you will be amused by the results.

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sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#7 - 2012-11-07 20:30:21 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
Also I wanted to verify if you are specifically looking for ideas for you to invest isk into, or ideas that you yourself will be planning on doing yourself. Your post suggests either possibility, but to give you the best ideas I have thought about or have planned doing myself requires knowing specifically if you are looking to invest into projects, run projects yourself, or looking for partners to work with.


Looking for ideas to execute myself. So not looking to fund others' projects, but to start my own. Thx for the clarifying question and your first idea

[u]AAA[/u]

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#8 - 2012-11-07 21:14:13 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
The Orca will be losings its ability to transport items hidden in its corp hangar bay soon (with the change to fleet hangars) as well as items dropping from the new hangars. This suggests that Orca's will soon become more interesting targets and unable to safely transport high value items. It will now be viable / profitable for gankers

This doesn't mean Orca's will become less used because realistically people will still need to transport items and the Orca will continue to be the most viable transport ship based on training time, price, features, storage space and tank.

This means that the current supply and manufacturing of Orca's will need to increase dramatically. The demand for the ships and as well as the BPO's will increase dramatically to meet the demands.


Let me guess, you are selling both?
Vito Tattaglia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-11-08 01:10:17 UTC
Plexes will be rising to an all time high, buy and sell those.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-11-08 01:53:43 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Styth spiting wrote:
The Orca will be losings its ability to transport items hidden in its corp hangar bay soon (with the change to fleet hangars) as well as items dropping from the new hangars. This suggests that Orca's will soon become more interesting targets and unable to safely transport high value items. It will now be viable / profitable for gankers

This doesn't mean Orca's will become less used because realistically people will still need to transport items and the Orca will continue to be the most viable transport ship based on training time, price, features, storage space and tank.

This means that the current supply and manufacturing of Orca's will need to increase dramatically. The demand for the ships and as well as the BPO's will increase dramatically to meet the demands.


Let me guess, you are selling both?



Was trying to group up with a few people to sell both but couldn't get the capital. So there's no point not sharing the idea.

Besides, if I was I wouldn't be sharing the idea :p.
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#11 - 2012-11-08 09:12:04 UTC
Idea on profiting from ship balancing and price changes sent in game.
Hiver Chanlin
Holdings and Transit
#12 - 2012-11-08 10:40:17 UTC
Idea on Landlording - sent you mail in game
sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#13 - 2012-11-08 19:27:33 UTC
thank you for the ideas, keep 'm coming

[u]AAA[/u]

Stegas Tyrano
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-11-08 19:34:03 UTC
Idea on selling ships, sending mail in-game.

Herping your derp since 19Potato - [url=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2403364][Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts[/url]

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#15 - 2012-11-08 21:58:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
With the ORCA's unscanable, nothing drops, cargo hold about to be nerfed, I expect freighters to become much more popular.

Even if the prices do not spike, which I am sure they will, there is already profit to be made off them. the returns are really good if you have well researched BPO's. The only issue is the low number sold, which I believe will increase a lot once the ORCA nerf goes live.

Since most serious industrial pilots already have trained to fly an itty 5 (can hold over 40k m3 fully expanded) an Obelisk is a logical next step as they already have the prerequisite racial industrial to 5. Sure it is not the highest M3 cargo hold like the Charon but it is easy to get into if you already have an itty 5.

I have all the BPO's needed for all the components, as well as an Obelisk BPO in the cooker for ME research coming out soon. However, I do not have the capital to mass produce them. I believe this is a great opportunity for someone with massive capital to back it. After all how often does a patch or expansion directly affect heavy haulers. This may be the only time freighters get a big spike in sales.

I also have a detailed plan to produce Jump freighters. At least the gallente Anshar, as I also have all the needed component BPO's researched to ME 100 PE 100. According to my plan working from base mats up, including running a low sec reaction tower to reduce costs on the huge amount of fullerides needed.(close to 75% of the entire build cost) I can produce the Anshar for just over 6 bil and they are still selling for over 8 bil. They do not sell fast, but I only need to sell a couple per day to make good isk at almost 2 bil profit per unit.

If I had the capital to put my plans into action it could be a mega billion isk industry. If this sounds like a good plan you would consider I would be willing to share the details of my plan. Or aside from this contest if you would consider funding me to do all the work and get my plan rolling for a cut of the profits, and/or loan repayed with interest, mail me.

I have not tried to secure a loan or bond for the needed capital as the only collateral I have is the BPO's which I need to make the plan work. I have many other BPO's but they are not worth near enough to serve as collateral. Putting it into work with my own funding I am only looking at producing 4-6 Obelisk's and 1-2 Anshar per month. It will take me several months to raise enough capital to scale it up. But if you have over 300 bil to throw around, My plan only needs about 50 bil to really get rolling and be fully self sufficient. I have already invested about 10 bil into my plan and it is moving forward. More isk could make things move a lot faster.

In hind sight I should have station traded with my 10 bil until I raised enough to put the full plan into action. But I really enjoy this part of the game, and was not liking station trading to much, despite the good isk made from it. this is turning out to be a very enjoyable challenge.
Reticle
Sight Picture
#16 - 2012-11-09 00:34:56 UTC
what became of the chosen plans from the previous contest you had? Did they make you rich?
Kommandohoran
Viziam
#17 - 2012-11-09 01:26:56 UTC
The purchase, and resale of characters via the forums.

With 300bil in ISK you can reach a wide variety of customers. Off the top of my head character types to trade in are; Tengu pilots, cap pilots, mid-range(30-50mil SP) pvp pilots, manufacturing alts, and mining alts.

A profitable strategy will include a diverse portfolio of undervalued characters, and characters that are missing high-profile skills. A classic example would be a carrier character that is missing JDC V, or an otherwise fine production alt that does not have mass production V.

With this kind of strategy you can have multiple accounts open, where two slots are filled by undervalued characters, and the other by a diamond in the rough that is training skills.

I think you'll find this venture to be both capital-intensive (thus limiting competition) and profitable.
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#18 - 2012-11-09 12:44:56 UTC
Another idea how to make profit from Retribution expansion send.
sinqlaison
Capital Builders Inc.
#19 - 2012-11-09 19:02:08 UTC
thx for the next batch of ideas

after some time I will - like last time - make a shortlist and ask the guys on the shortlist to provide a bit more meat on the bone for their idea, so I can better judge them

[u]AAA[/u]

Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-11-09 21:33:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Wescro
Minimize your tax burden and flip PLEXes. With 300b ISK, you are looking at ~500 PLEX. I saw an order that large yesterday and it's gone now, presumably all filled in day. PLEX are the only thing on the market that can handle trade volume of the magnitude you are looking at.

The daily volume for PLEX in The Forge is about 1700b ISK. The second highest volume is for Tritanium at about 90b ISK.

At my peak I played 10 hours a day and with just 2b ISK I was trading 50 - 100 PLEX a day. My profit was between 1m to 5m ISK per PLEX, so between 50m to 500m ISK of profit daily on a 2b ISK investment. That's better than anything I could get from anywhere else.

With 300bn ISK, I'm guessing you could easily clear 200 PLEX a day, so daily profits in excess of 1b are almost guaranteed. I wouldn't be surprised to see as much as 15b ISK a day with optimum tax status and baby-sitting the orders.
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