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ASB is BULL.

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Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#521 - 2012-11-03 06:31:09 UTC
[quote=Zarnak Wulf]Ya'll realize that the number of reps, as it stands now, are being cut by 30% on December 4th? CCP Fozzie also indicated that they are looking at buffing armor, possibly via heat. Easy on the pitchforks.[/quote

this sounds to me a silly idea. overheat affecting all nearby modules ..

for me all the coming changes dont look well thought. they patch here and then find out there is something else broken and patch there then and anotehr one and come to absurd ideas...
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#522 - 2012-11-04 22:16:00 UTC
i'm sorry but your Bhaalgorn fit sucksUgh
Freezehunter
#523 - 2012-11-04 22:48:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Why does every new moron that posts in this thread automatically assume that the Bhaalgorn I was flying was fit specifically to counter that one guy?

I am not one of those container baiting bitches that always fits their ship specifically against targets they know they will be attacking or be attacked by.

The fit was actually supposed to murder Battlecruisers and under, but it should have had no problems with that Rattlesnake unless it had the bullshit OP ASB fitted, what part of "I GOT HIM INTO 5 PERCENT SHIELDS 5 TIMES IN A ROW BUT THEN HE RECHARGED EVERY TIME" and "I killed 2 other guys in HACs IN THE SAME FIGHT" don't you morons understand?

Seriously, do you guys know how to read or did you take English classes with the Polish immigrant janitor?

Anyway, ASB is getting nerfed bad in Retribution, mission accomplished, now someone close this ******* thread so I don't have to see semi illiterate morons talking out of their asses flashing up on my notifications panel every day.

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Larry LowBlow
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#524 - 2012-11-05 01:18:39 UTC
I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but if he had a crap carebear fit, how did he manage to point you?

Last I checked, npc's don't require a point to keep them in place.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#525 - 2012-11-05 10:18:20 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Why does every new moron that posts in this thread automatically assume that the Bhaalgorn I was flying was fit specifically to counter that one guy?

....

now someone close this ******* thread so I don't have to see semi illiterate morons talking out of their asses flashing up on my notifications panel every day.


A) Because of troll

B) Unclick "send me notifications".

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Itala D'Uhmri
Doomheim
#526 - 2012-11-05 19:31:05 UTC
Current tanking is RPS.

Rock is buffer (armor or shield.) You're not completely cap dependant, and will typically thrash a standard active tank.

Scissors is Standard Active - non ASB shield boosters or armor reps. You die in a fire to buffer because of cap reliance and generally having less tank than they have damage.

Paper is ASB - You'll die to an active because they don't have reloads, but you'll beat buffer because your actual EHP, if spread out over the course of your load, is much higher than your average buffer fit. Also, less slot strain than active tanks.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#527 - 2012-11-05 19:55:32 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Why does every new moron that posts in this thread automatically assume that the Bhaalgorn I was flying was fit specifically to counter that one guy?

I am not one of those container baiting bitches that always fits their ship specifically against targets they know they will be attacking or be attacked by.

The fit was actually supposed to murder Battlecruisers and under, but it should have had no problems with that Rattlesnake unless it had the bullshit OP ASB fitted, what part of "I GOT HIM INTO 5 PERCENT SHIELDS 5 TIMES IN A ROW BUT THEN HE RECHARGED EVERY TIME" and "I killed 2 other guys in HACs IN THE SAME FIGHT" don't you morons understand?

Seriously, do you guys know how to read or did you take English classes with the Polish immigrant janitor?

Anyway, ASB is getting nerfed bad in Retribution, mission accomplished, now someone close this ******* thread so I don't have to see semi illiterate morons talking out of their asses flashing up on my notifications panel every day.


250k ehp sounds like a buffer fit to me.

You were going to lose to ANYONE who could tank your damage and live through your cap warfare...... eventually.....

I mean what else do you want? He probably had crystal implants, strong blue pill, and 1 shield boost amp. Depending on the resistance, the ehp boosted from a resistance bonused BS from a 1,500 shield hp boost is a ton.

What did you have for reps? If you had slaves in and were justing hoping to outlast errybody, you have no sympathy from me.

(well you had none anyways as this was on SiSi.)
vyshnegradsky
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#528 - 2012-11-05 20:07:04 UTC
true story OP is the reson we can't have nice things

This one's a bit over the edge guys.

Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#529 - 2012-11-05 20:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Itala D'Uhmri wrote:
Current tanking is RPS.

Rock is buffer (armor or shield.) You're not completely cap dependant, and will typically thrash a standard active tank.

Scissors is Standard Active - non ASB shield boosters or armor reps. You die in a fire to buffer because of cap reliance and generally having less tank than they have damage.

Paper is ASB - You'll die to an active because they don't have reloads, but you'll beat buffer because your actual EHP, if spread out over the course of your load, is much higher than your average buffer fit. Also, less slot strain than active tanks.

It would be interesing to try this actually. But I wonder, isn't ASB also frees your cap to use neuts and drain that standard active tanker?

Well, it was said I don't know how many times in this thread, but if not for neuts, it would be tad easier to balance ASBs out. Oh well, it's always the case, more factors = more PITA...

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Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#530 - 2012-11-06 18:43:03 UTC
Wait.... Your complaining you lost your neuting ship to a ship whose tank and weapon system does not use cap. How bout you rethink your plan of attack first.
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#531 - 2012-11-06 18:47:25 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Itala D'Uhmri wrote:
Current tanking is RPS.

Rock is buffer (armor or shield.) You're not completely cap dependant, and will typically thrash a standard active tank.

Scissors is Standard Active - non ASB shield boosters or armor reps. You die in a fire to buffer because of cap reliance and generally having less tank than they have damage.

Paper is ASB - You'll die to an active because they don't have reloads, but you'll beat buffer because your actual EHP, if spread out over the course of your load, is much higher than your average buffer fit. Also, less slot strain than active tanks.

It would be interesing to try this actually. But I wonder, isn't ASB also frees your cap to use neuts and drain that standard active tanker?

Well, it was said I don't know how many times in this thread, but if not for neuts, it would be tad easier to balance ASBs out. Oh well, it's always the case, more factors = more PITA...



I doubt it. ASB doesn't need a cap booster. They would use their cap neuting but the active guy has cap booster So wouldn't be a big issue I would think.
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#532 - 2012-11-06 21:57:56 UTC
I haven't kept up with the whole thread and only just came back from a break ~2 weeks ago, would someone do me the favor of linking where CCP says they will be nerfing ASB's?
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#533 - 2012-11-06 22:10:46 UTC
guy fights enemy with crystal set, strong blue pill, and OGB in test server and loses.

rages on forum.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#534 - 2012-11-06 22:31:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton
The rattlesnake has the best passive near-0-cap-usage tank of any subcap in the game, and uses no cap to fire its weapons. It also doesn't care much about range, so webbing it down is of limited use.

The bhaal relies heavily on capping out its enemies, and does relatively little dps for a battleship. It's basically the opposite of what you'd want to bring to fight an ASB-boosted passive rattler.

I really see no reason why OP should have won this.

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#535 - 2012-11-06 22:32:34 UTC
Berendas wrote:
I haven't kept up with the whole thread and only just came back from a break ~2 weeks ago, would someone do me the favor of linking where CCP says they will be nerfing ASB's?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155474&find=unread

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Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#536 - 2012-11-06 22:55:18 UTC
Fon Revedhort wrote:
Berendas wrote:
I haven't kept up with the whole thread and only just came back from a break ~2 weeks ago, would someone do me the favor of linking where CCP says they will be nerfing ASB's?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155474&find=unread


Much appreciated Smile