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Miners of The Proveldtariat Rejoice!

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#61 - 2012-11-06 16:30:09 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Anslo wrote:
No, he doesn't have that right. If he was just bumping bots, REAL bots, I might have joined is merry band of tight wearing bumpers in feathered caps.

But no, he used this bot-aspirant crap to dictate that anyone mining wants to be a bot.

Of course he has the right to do it. Your joining our 'merry band' has no relevance as to whether or not we're allowed to bump whom we please.

And besides, can you really deny that mining, as a profession, is the first step on the road to becoming a bot? Even if you interact with the game while mining, you're certainly not interacting with your 'roid once you've targeted it and started your lasers.
...

Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#62 - 2012-11-06 16:35:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainotomiu Ronuken
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie.

You're exactly right! Although your use of juvenile portmantitles did kind of diminish that effect.

You might also want to consider that removing the 'AFK' would make it mean more. I mean, AFK Mining is like Ecstasy while bot mining is crack cocaine, but the true gateway drug (cannabis) would be mining in any form.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#63 - 2012-11-06 17:06:38 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie.

You're exactly right! Although your use of juvenile portmantitles did kind of diminish that effect.

You might also want to consider that removing the 'AFK' would make it mean more. I mean, AFK Mining is like Ecstasy while bot mining is crack *******, but the true gateway drug (cannabis) would be mining in any form.

Hey hey hey, they have disproven the gateway drug theory about pot.

At least make sure your crackpot theories are current, sheesh.

:tinfoil:

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#64 - 2012-11-06 17:25:37 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:

If it goes that way, I have a fair idea of who is going to come out on the worse side. The miners have a greater tendency to all be in the same corporation, so one wardec = more targets. The PvP players and mercs are, in general, morally on the side of James 315. The miner bumpers are far more likely to have the tools for ganking than the miners are. And finally, any list of miners is bound to have a greater audience, due to the fact that www.MinerBumping.com is much better known than the Proveldtariat blog.


I concur with your assessment on who will come off worse, It would generate enough tears to form a whole new icebelt, unless of course all those miners who claim to be alts of PvP characters are actually telling the truth. Either way it would be glorious to see that much stuff exploded in hisec because some people refused to pay for a mining permit.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#65 - 2012-11-06 17:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie.

You're exactly right! Although your use of juvenile portmantitles did kind of diminish that effect.

You might also want to consider that removing the 'AFK' would make it mean more. I mean, AFK Mining is like Ecstasy while bot mining is crack *******, but the true gateway drug (cannabis) would be mining in any form.

Hey hey hey, they have disproven the gateway drug theory about pot.

At least make sure your crackpot theories are current, sheesh.

:tinfoil:

That post was just a 'juvenile portmantitle', whatever that is. Didn't you guys notice a slightly trollish stink on that post? Smile
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#66 - 2012-11-06 17:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
The word is portmanteau, it's the use of two words to make a new one. Spork is a good example, it's the combination of spoon and fork in both language and physical form.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#67 - 2012-11-06 17:48:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kainotomiu Ronuken
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The word is portmanteau, it's the use of two words to make a new one. Spork is a good example, it's the combination of spoon and fork in both language and physical form.

Another example is 'chortle' which is a combination of 'snort' and 'chuckle' (it was coined by Lewis Carroll in his poem The Jabberwock).

Khergit Deserters wrote:
That post was just a 'juvenile portmantitle', whatever that is. Didn't you guys notice a slightly trollish stink on that post? Smile
In future, I don't recommend using a word to describe something and then following it with 'whatever that is'. It significantly increases your chances of making no sense at all.

As Jonah said, the correct word would be 'portmanteau', and my word (portmantitle) was a portmanteau of 'portmanteau' and 'title', because of your use of 'bumpgeoisie', which is a portmanteau of 'bumper' and 'bourgeoisie'.

I hope that clears that up.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#68 - 2012-11-06 17:56:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Turns out that Lewis Carroll was the first person to use portmanteau in this context in "through the looking glass". When he wrote that a portmanteau was actually a posh word for suitcase and in modern French it's a coat tree (porte-manteau).

Now I must check all the links from the wiki page because it's like youtube in that respect, you look at one thing and 4 hours later you're still there looking at something completely random.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#69 - 2012-11-06 18:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The word is portmanteau, it's the use of two words to make a new one. Spork is a good example, it's the combination of spoon and fork in both language and physical form.

Another example is 'chortle' which is a combination of 'snort' and 'chuckle' (it was coined by Lewis Carroll in his poem The Jabberwock).

Khergit Deserters wrote:
That post was just a 'juvenile portmantitle', whatever that is. Didn't you guys notice a slightly trollish stink on that post? Smile
In future, I don't recommend using a word to describe something and then following it with 'whatever that is'. It significantly increases your chances of making no sense at all.

As Jonah said, the correct word would be 'portmanteau', and my word (portmantitle) was a portmanteau of 'portmanteau' and 'title', because of your use of 'bumpgeoisie', which is a portmanteau of 'bumper' and 'bourgeoisie'.

I hope that clears that up.

Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things.
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#70 - 2012-11-06 19:02:08 UTC
this is some of the best player created content i have seen in a while. let the meta war beginTwistedTwistedTwisted
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#71 - 2012-11-06 19:11:18 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things.

Nice edit. I preferred the first iteration though.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#72 - 2012-11-06 19:29:25 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Natasha Liao wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Anslo wrote:

As for Chribba, of course he isn't the founder. He's too busy being Chribba and manly, whilst swimming in a frozen lake fighting ice dragons and eating their flesh over an open fire with a mug of Meade...

Chribba fanfics.....

Please tell me thats not the scene where he is visited by Batman, Robin, and The Mittani for a massive orgy. Shocked

Chribba slash fiction ... please tell me I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing. On many levels...


It's actually not a fan fic at all. Check his twitter. The guy goes swimming in freezing temperatures in a near frozen lake. Gotta have respect for that Shocked

Normal viking days.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#73 - 2012-11-06 19:38:18 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things.

Nice edit. I preferred the first iteration though.

Came here planning to edit it again and say, "Edit: Smartass comment deleted." Anyway, carry on.... Smile
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2012-11-06 21:14:18 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Natasha Liao wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Anslo wrote:

As for Chribba, of course he isn't the founder. He's too busy being Chribba and manly, whilst swimming in a frozen lake fighting ice dragons and eating their flesh over an open fire with a mug of Meade...

Chribba fanfics.....

Please tell me thats not the scene where he is visited by Batman, Robin, and The Mittani for a massive orgy. Shocked

Chribba slash fiction ... please tell me I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing. On many levels...


It's actually not a fan fic at all. Check his twitter. The guy goes swimming in freezing temperatures in a near frozen lake. Gotta have respect for that Shocked

Not once the clothes are off.

So will this involve quotas?
Or shall all be free to mine as they please with those in abundance giving to those less so?
Anslo
Scope Works
#75 - 2012-11-06 21:20:07 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:

Not once the clothes are off.

So will this involve quotas?
Or shall all be free to mine as they please with those in abundance giving to those less so?


I'm sorry if I don't quite understand...are you asking how miners function during this?

If that's the case, they can do whatever they want. All they have to do is resist the bumpers. They don't have to give anything or pay for protection or whatever. That defeats the purpose. If miners choose to help other miners in different way, that's great! It show's a unified front against these extortionists.

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Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#76 - 2012-11-06 21:23:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeremy Soikutsu
Jenn aSide wrote:

In one case your interacting with PEOPLE

Irrelevant, the mechanics by which a bot is achieving it's goal is what makes it a bot, not what it's goal is.

Jenn aSide wrote:

and taking actions to will help the economy of the game by removing materials/ships (either yours or the ship of the person your FC called primary)), in the other, you ain't (your just adding yet more material into an over-stuffed game market).

Sophism, I believe the kids call this. I think the most important wrong part of this is the fact that the low-end market is still underserved right now, and even if it wasn't ships don't get built without mins so it's pretty dumb to brush off a core part of the "Eve lifecycle" like that. For the record this point is also irrelevant to the argument at hand, as effects on the broader ecosystem don't make something a bot, the mechanics of a how it does what is does makes it one.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#77 - 2012-11-06 21:32:12 UTC
Anslo wrote:
I'm sorry if I don't quite understand...are you asking how miners function during this?

If that's the case, they can do whatever they want. All they have to do is resist the bumpers. They don't have to give anything or pay for protection or whatever. That defeats the purpose. If miners choose to help other miners in different way, that's great! It show's a unified front against these extortionists.

The term 'proletariat', while being Latin in origin, has come to be associated with ideas like communism and socialism - partly because of the term 'proles' being used in George Orwell's 1984, and partly because Marx himself used it extensively (along with bourgeoisie, and yes, 'bumpgeois' should have an 'ie' on the end).

Basically, he's making a communism joke out of the fact that you chose Marxist terms as the basis of your blog.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-11-06 21:34:25 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Basically, he's making a communism joke out of the fact that you chose Marxist terms as the basis of your blog.

If the joke has to be explained to Anslo, it has served its purpose.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Anslo
Scope Works
#79 - 2012-11-06 21:38:25 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:

The term 'proletariat', while being Latin in origin, has come to be associated with ideas like communism and socialism - partly because of the term 'proles' being used in George Orwell's 1984, and partly because Marx himself used it extensively (along with bourgeoisie, and yes, 'bumpgeois' should have an 'ie' on the end).

Basically, he's making a communism joke out of the fact that you chose Marxist terms as the basis of your blog.


Hmm, interesting! Nice Smile

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Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#80 - 2012-11-06 22:05:51 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Bravo.

Posting in a thread that isn't a whine thread.

Perhaps, after Retribution, you could turn this into a charity. Rich sadistic bastards could put bounties on people using active characters for bumping. Mercs could use the page to know which corps to wardec to get the bounties. Marvellous.


And then said mercs get decshielded mercilessly into an endless annoying pointless war...Roll

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