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Remove local and put an end to people talking about cloaks. Please.

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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#1 - 2012-11-02 22:00:32 UTC
No local works for wormhole space just fine. How long ago was that made? I think CCP has had more than enough time to see that it works. We have so many crying about people with cloaks when they are lucky to have free intel to begin with. I am all for giving better scanners at the same time. I am not fine with free intel though and that is what local is.

We were told this would be done before Dust launch during Incarna and the whiners scrapped a ton of content and employees that would have been great to still have in my opinion.
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-11-02 22:06:10 UTC
no
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#3 - 2012-11-02 22:12:54 UTC
People will just move on to whining about something else
Dan Carter Murray
#4 - 2012-11-03 15:53:00 UTC
everyone knows how to find afk cloakers.

you have to smartbomb every inch of the solar system to decloak them.

you're welcome.

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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-11-03 19:31:49 UTC
As soon as you remove local, the only people that will be in 0.0 will be the combat alts of Empire L4 mission runners on an op, and clueless idiots trying to find someone to gank in a virtually empty 0.0.

No local only works in wormspace because the inhabitants can control the access to their space by colapsing wormholes that lead to inhabited WH systems.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Abyssum Invocat
Yet Another Tax Haven
#6 - 2012-11-04 11:53:40 UTC
Shepard Book wrote:
No local works for wormhole space just fine. How long ago was that made? I think CCP has had more than enough time to see that it works. We have so many crying about people with cloaks when they are lucky to have free intel to begin with. I am all for giving better scanners at the same time. I am not fine with free intel though and that is what local is.

We were told this would be done before Dust launch during Incarna and the whiners scrapped a ton of content and employees that would have been great to still have in my opinion.

Thank you but I would rather not spend 5 minutes d-scanning every system during a roam to figure out whether or not I was alone. Some parts of Eve are empty for 10 jumps in every direction, having to meticulously comb every AU with your scanner and pray no one unwittingly passed you, is not good gameplay.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-11-04 16:39:13 UTC
How about you just don't bother yourself with reading talks about cloaks instead? Blink
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#8 - 2012-11-04 16:50:37 UTC
Mortimer Civer wrote:
No local only works in wormspace because the inhabitants can control the access to their space by colapsing wormholes that lead to inhabited WH systems.


There have been many times where we leave the hole open while we run sites... What we do (get this) is we put an alt in a cloaked ship about 50kms off the hole, and we actually WATCH IT! Amazing I know. Turns out you can do this with star gates as well.who knew?
Corporate Management
Apocalypse Reign
#9 - 2012-11-04 16:51:14 UTC
Local should be delayed for 0.0 unless you hold sovereignty and have a POS mounted with the same system that concord use in empire to relay local list to you. Much like stations, the list would only show to those who have the standings to see it.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#10 - 2012-11-05 07:19:14 UTC
Delete AFK cloaker whiners. Its the only solution - Their characters must be deleted and reprocessed in order to create more intelligent pod pilots. (Who dont suffer from paranoia issues that cripple them)
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#11 - 2012-11-05 09:51:45 UTC
I do think there needs to be changes to local in nullsec - perhaps not going as far as to make it a clone of wh local, but something to make it a bit less useful, or at least make it require some kind of effort to be as useful as it is.

Perhaps make it a system upgrade - without the upgrade all you get is a constellation or region wide list. Some of the less interesting, less populated and less maintained systems would then understandably be worse off on the up-to-the-minute intel front.
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#12 - 2012-11-05 10:17:40 UTC
Remove cloaks and put an end to people talking about local.
Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#13 - 2012-11-05 21:49:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Edit: Snipped - no need for that sort of thing. ISD Suvetar

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Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-11-05 22:25:29 UTC
Shepard Book wrote:
No local works for wormhole space just fine. How long ago was that made? I think CCP has had more than enough time to see that it works. We have so many crying about people with cloaks when they are lucky to have free intel to begin with. I am all for giving better scanners at the same time. I am not fine with free intel though and that is what local is.

We were told this would be done before Dust launch during Incarna and the whiners scrapped a ton of content and employees that would have been great to still have in my opinion.


OP, Congratulations on your stunning display of EVE naivety.

AFK cloaking is NOT a problem, it never was.

Somebody who is AFK cannot hurt you. Grow a pair.

Dont like people in local? Removing local wont change a thing, except make you a little bit less scared.

And if an AFK cloaky person scares you so much that you go to the forums to post downright terrible suggestions, then obviously, EVE is not for you.

Here are some proper suggestions for you:

1. Hello kitty online. They love people like you.

2. World of Warcraft. Nuff said.

3. Disney.com, as you seem afraid of other people.

All of these suggestions are ------> this way.

P.S Before you unsub and leave, contract all your stuff to this toon. And the contents of your wallet while you are at it. Ill make far better use of it all than you have been able to.



Cajun Style
Shattered Planet
#15 - 2012-11-06 00:42:17 UTC
obviously they should get rid of local... when they do a total revamp of d-scan and have a sensible plan for how we will spot people incoming easily in this new, sleek, well designed d-scan UI and how we will be able to find eachother and initiate fights easily and how it will be a good UI that we will keep open all the time instead of local... chances are, though, this will never happen, or the D-scan revamp (there have been murmurs about this topic recently) WILL happen but it will be like unified inventory and have some vexing problems, take up far too much screen real-estate and everyone will ***** about it endlessly.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#16 - 2012-11-06 01:08:08 UTC
you can't remove local without adding some form of a intel tool as replacement. CCP knows that. And no, the spreadsheet with refresh button (aka dscan) is not a replacement.

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Graff Spee
Lonercorp
#17 - 2012-11-06 05:38:49 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
you can't remove local without adding some form of a intel tool as replacement. CCP knows that. And no, the spreadsheet with refresh button (aka dscan) is not a replacement.

This. I love WH space, and all of its many great dangers. But 0.0 feels emptier and bigger without intel. This would be fine if the distances were smaller, or the inhabitants more densely populated, but at the moment, this is not the case.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#18 - 2012-11-06 06:18:17 UTC
One can judge a troll by the number of whiny poasts devoted to repudiating its alleged purpose and content. By this metric I assign you a 7/10.
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#19 - 2012-11-06 06:55:01 UTC
Alyssa Yotosala wrote:
Shepard Book wrote:
No local works for wormhole space just fine. How long ago was that made? I think CCP has had more than enough time to see that it works. We have so many crying about people with cloaks when they are lucky to have free intel to begin with. I am all for giving better scanners at the same time. I am not fine with free intel though and that is what local is.

We were told this would be done before Dust launch during Incarna and the whiners scrapped a ton of content and employees that would have been great to still have in my opinion.


OP, Congratulations on your stunning display of EVE naivety.

AFK cloaking is NOT a problem, it never was.

Somebody who is AFK cannot hurt you. Grow a pair.

Dont like people in local? Removing local wont change a thing, except make you a little bit less scared.

And if an AFK cloaky person scares you so much that you go to the forums to post downright terrible suggestions, then obviously, EVE is not for you.

Here are some proper suggestions for you:

1. Hello kitty online. They love people like you.

2. World of Warcraft. Nuff said.

3. Disney.com, as you seem afraid of other people.

All of these suggestions are ------> this way.

P.S Before you unsub and leave, contract all your stuff to this toon. And the contents of your wallet while you are at it. Ill make far better use of it all than you have been able to.





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Mexan Caderu
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-11-06 07:12:13 UTC
WH space has what you are seeking. Go there.
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